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    Discovery channel is starting a new series called "Doomsday bunkers" hopefully it is a good show.
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    Where I live right now is very well insulated, I will be heading to Afghanistan for a tour next year and when I get back I intent on building my own place. I have plans!! The insulation will be something else, along with that a 20x30 cold storage for canned goods, and "fresh," potatoes onions etc. Can you tell I'm of German ancestory? I have also been picking up stuff off of ebay, it takes time to find the right items, just today i picked up an ACU GenIII gortex set for 15 bucks, new with tags. WELL worth the money. That sort of stuff is essential for the climate I live in, that is also why I do not plan on moving south if I have to move,. When I first started considering scenarios I looked at what I had, and since I am not rich, I felt it right to stick with what I had and build off of it.

    In the way of water I think that the springs, which provide a "natural" filtering along with boiling are the best routes for a water source.

    Something I need to figure out is how to ice fish without my auger, and using to much energy while making a hole. 2 ft of ice is a bitch to get through with a pick axe or a chisel. I would really miss that and not be able to survive without it .

    What are your planes for the heat and do you guys have a larger selection of bugs, and varmits to deal with?
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    The heat doesn't bother me, but where I plan to go when SHTF there are a couple caves, springs, a creek and a river on or along the property.
    Check this out for your ice fishing.http://www.buycheapr.com/us/result.j...efishing+auger
    I went ice fishing once (that I remember) when I was 3. We used to live in ST. Paul MN.
    We have variety of varmints and bugs . My biggest concern would be snakes.
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    Awesome news for me to report today. I went to my local wal-mart which is not my preferred retailer but it was convenient so I used them. Well I went in to grab some ammo as they do sell ammo at a decent price and picked up more shotgun 00buck, 45 auto, and 38+p. I am looking at going the 22lr route like mentioned it is cheaper and still can hunt and hurt with it. Well after purchasing the ammo there was a older fellow that was telling some other shoppers about prepping and so I waited for them to finish. Then I introduced myself and asked the guy about if he was prepping for a doomsday. He and I talked and he had a actual business card with his facebook and website info. Long story short he lives very close to me and he has a group of active and former military active and former police and civilian members already. I went to the youtube and will post more on them later. I am going to connect with him later and visit their place to look around and get more acquainted with them.


    If this turns out to be as good as it looks then I have found just what I am looking but still my natural skepticism still in the back of my head telling me to trust but keep one eye opened for that red flag issue.

    I believe in being apart of a large group of people to be the best for after the shtf because of the old safety in numbers and moral not going at it alone. Plus of course the more man power the better at getting things done and having people specialize and sharing resources with each other. I will post more on it later and more on the garden and survival stuff I have found.
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    Snakes are no ish to me. I took a trip out to Wyoming, SD, MT, NE 2 years ago. No route or plan, which was nice, also gave me a chance to do some hiking off the beaten path and take roads that were hardly on the map. The one thing that really almost got me a couple of time was the rattlers. Now I had an advantage as they rattle when you get close so I knew they were there, at the same time for myself it is not a natural thing to look for so I never actually saw one or would have been able to spot them without their rattle. I am to used to Bears, Coyotes, Moose, Deer, and an occasional cougar being the only threats. I'm not afraid of snakes, just don't like how stealthy they are, matter of fact the only thing I'm afraid of is the ocean. Mosquitos would be a threat too though, so I do need to find some sort of a natural bug repelent that can be easily made.

    Another advantage of the .22 is the size of round you want to use. For example my ruger single six has one cylinder for .22LR, and one for .22MAG. I also love my .22 Henry's, I have a ranch hand and a regular, they take .22S, .22L, and .22LR. I like being able to use the shorts if I need to, not as loud (even though a .22 isn't that loud anyway). Plus it is so nice to refine my shooting abilities, the principles atleast, without burning up to much spendy ammo.
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    not a big fan of snakes. They usually die after meeting me. I doubt I would take the time if I ever see a live rattler. I was up in NE,SD,WY, & MT last summer didn't get to see a bear.
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    prep site and water storage and preservation items. http://www.thereadystore.com/water-s...llers?limit=72
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    If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter -George Washington-
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    It is only the dead who have seen the end of war. -Plato-
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    Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil-Thomas Mann-
    The more I know about people, the more I like my dog -Mark Twain-
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    A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves-Edward R. Murrow-
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    So here is a question for you guys. EMP's. If one goes off everything is down, vehicles, power grid, cell phones, communication devices, etc etc etc. What are your plans for that type of a situation? To me this is the most dangerous man made form of a SHTF scenario. Relatively easy to produce, compared to an amount of nukes that could do any kind of damaged, and when done at the right height could pretty much wipe out virtually everything in a modern society.

    Here is my thing, things that rely on batteries. I don't know if it helps but I try to keep a ready reserve of a few things that will run on batteries, along with that a keep a very decent sized amount of rechargeable batteries on hand with atleast two 12v converters and cigarette adapters on hand. While this is minimal, it is a source of power, and vehicles are much easier to fix than a power grid. Plus it is all relavent to virtually any kind of situation.
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    good question brenden. I will look into this when my weekend gets here.
    I have been snooping around a bit on this.
    Any suggestion on books to have on hand?
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    I do not know of any good books. I guess any book that would give you knowledge of electrical systems, and books on mid to late 1800's farming and guides for living in that time period would be helpful. I know that there are ways to protect equipment and pieces of sensitive electronics from the affects of an EMP, but does it really matter if the whole grid has to be replaced from your house all the way back to the power plant? I have read a lot of writings that suggest that taking everything completely off the grid will save that equipment, and I have read many that say it will not make a difference and all of the electronics cicuit breakers etc will be fried regardless. It is hard to test the affects of an EMP without destroying a section of earth that gets the full effect of the EMP, or detonating a nuclear weapon. I guess for myself the best defense is not living in a highly populated area, city or a large town. I read some where, I don't have the reference handy, that retrofitting the hole electric grid to with stand and EMP would cost upwards of 500,000,000,000. Given the current economic situation of the US I do not see that happening in the near future, and only one nuke detonated a couple hundred miles above the center of the US puts us all back in the dark ages.
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    I was looking into bio fuels . Could you make your own with only what you could grow on your land. I so far came to the conclusion , that you could not. Maybe some Apache out there has better information?
    Also I doubt if it got that bad that you would not want to "drive to town". It's doubtful there would be anything in town worth the risk.
    I agree with you about farming techniques .
    Also on the subject of books. I was thinking first aid and preventative health books.
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    Well it sounds like you fellas have it all under control...Where I would be staying when the SHTF Only one road in.Been hunting these woods for over 25 years,I know every hump and bump in them.It's a little over 2,000 acres and the farm has a windmill water well on it,don't know how long it would sustain us....But it will last long enough till everything cools down.
    Will drag my boat, camper (if the truck will run),and a mess of the wife's kin-folk with us.I have 5,500 watt gen. for as long as we can get gas.Also have 150watt. solar panel to keep my deep cycle batts. charged as well as a 2,000 watt. inverter on the camper.I've ate anything from rattle snakes to sand sharks.So food to me will not be a problem,I know how to hunt and trap.

    I've heard of Alcohol fuel that you can make Jamie,Haven't really read much on it though.
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    What is a sand shark?
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    Here ya go brah. Sand Shark
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