this is a great thread. Nothing like tackling all of mans controversies and physics at the same time.
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this is a great thread. Nothing like tackling all of mans controversies and physics at the same time.
I agree, this thread is superb. We do go off topic from time to time, but discussion is always interesting and never ugly.
this comment below belongs here and not on the Trayvon Martin post except that it was a response to gazz and his remarks on that other thread.
i have posted several reasons why I have disdain for democrats(liberals). If you remove religion from the two sides of politics liberals still stand for gun grabbing, socialism, less freedoms more government control, it is very simple. This is so simple to understand and I dont understand military men or women that support the democrats either. The democrats are actually anti military. Obama is going to reduce benefits and jobs across the entire military if he gets his way.
To what extent will be only by how much the republican party can resist his goal. Its odd that democrats are all for entitlements for the poor yet they are against entitlements for our military. Why would you not want to support the people who are risking their lives to keep us free and safe? The poor are doing nothing in a figurative definition to support America. The answer is they are a segment that democrats have embraced only for the votes that can be gained from this segment. You cant be anti gun and pro military and so at least democrats have that understood.
There is so much more I can go on and I probably will just not now.
just attaching this here as it relates and I posted it on another thread that it related well to.
Be safe everyone....enjoy your family and friends....maybe consider how you can do more good than remain in the same old routine for another year of life.-------
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COMMENTARY | President Barack Obama signed an executive order Friday titled "National Defense Resources Preparedness." The news media is unsure of the precise meaning of the information included in the order and average citizens are left to figure out what it means in general. As a longtime supporter of the president, I've been reluctant to jump to conclusions, but the general tide of recent legislation and this order give me reason for concern about the intentions of this administration.
The order lists items such as the power of the executive departments of the U.S. federal government and its agencies to "identify requirements for the full spectrum of emergencies, including essential military and civilian demand." This same section, labeled "General Functions," also enumerates these departments and agencies might ensure availability of domestic resources and industries to secure national defense. Do these and other line items signal that America is on the verge of another war -- and will that war be with another nation or on U.S. citizens?
The first step in the direction of applying military law to private citizens occurred Dec. 31, when the president signed into law the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012. This legislation sounded the initial alarm to me because although its main purpose is for providing necessary funding of the military, it included provisions that allowed the indefinite detention without charge of private citizens.
The next signal of alarm came on March 8, when the president signed into law H.R. 347, the Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011. The law restricts protests at political functions among other things. This is offensive since the U.S. was founded upon protest and revolution.
Perhaps each law taken individually wouldn't be a cause for concern, but the totality of these three suggests the federal government is envisioning more control over the civilian population than it has ever enjoyed. The president's order on Friday suggests to some the executive branch might be ready to enact martial law in peacetime.
Smack dab in the middle of the baby boomer generation, L.L. Woodard is a proud resident of "The Red Man" state. With what he hopes is an everyman's view of life's concerns both in his state and throughout the nation, Woodard presents facts and opinions based on common-sense solutions.
this was on yahoo or ABC news site. google it.
To all of you I love you as fellow AC members even the ones I dont agree with. The world is going in a direction that is quite literally leading to our end. If you care about your families and your own life then wake up and think about things in a grander scale than just your own selfish interest.
I am sorry but things just require a new way of thinking.
Just saying but:
Just about every president since Franklin Roosevelt had "Czar" appointees in their administration. Bush had a total of 36 positions (many temporary) filled by a total of 46 different individuals over the years, of which 21 were confirmed by the U.S. Senate. That leaves a total of 25 "czars" which were not approved by congress.
Obama has been on the same path, with some quite puzzling "czars". Really a video game "Czar"???? In this day and age with the defecit as it is, it's a waste of money, time, and effort. Edit: I could not find an accurate number for Obama, but would sure love to hear it.
These two are my favorite:
President Bush along with congress in 2001, a democratic Senate and a republican house, approved the Patriot Act. A blatant anti constitutional policy act. He also opened the door, and allowed the following-
President Obama along with congress in 2011, a democratic senate and a republican house, approved the latest disgusting NDAA. A blatant slap against the constitution. He is building and adding more power to an already overloaded with power position in the American government.
I could go on an on about both presidencies and both political parties, as they are both so damn broken it isn't even funny. I won't though because it isn't worth the time, these are just two of the glaring issues I see.
That being said, I would take a bullet for either of these men (or anyone from any party who is elected as president) because they are the president. A few months ago I stopped at a gas stationto get a bite to eat while in uniform. This guy came up to me to talk politics, he laid into about how bad Obama was. I nodded my head in agreement to avoid any kind of disagreement or scuffle over politics. He concluded by smiling and saying, "Shit atleast I know I can count on you military guys. You wouldn't take a bullet for Obama if you had the chance to and you saw it coming would ya?" I simply replied, "I am a member of the United State Military, and as a member of the military it is my duty and responsibility to take the bullet for Obama regardless of political ideals I may have. It is up to civilians to decide what happens next, the military is just here to ensure that you are able to make those choices in the future." He laughed called me a "No good liberal piece of shit." and walked out the door, I in turn thanked him loud enough for him to hear.
No matter who gets elected it will be the same, just a different party at the helm. So just pick your poison.
No matter who gets elected it will be the same, just a different party at the helm. So just pick your poison.
Wow i have been trying to say that for about 2 weeks now Thanks Brenden
I agree with that that both sides are corupt and neither side truly gives a shit about us average joe Americans.
I would still prefer a republican in the white house than a democrat as we can see obama has done some things that honestly go well beyond Bush and the patriot act. I know that many want to generalize that the partiot act is like the NDAA now but truthfully it is not. Then I have to add that the patriot act was all but one piece of legislation that was enacted after arguably the worst attack on American soil EVER.
So yes it did infringe and then also it had a expiration date if you recall? They did renew the Patriot Act but unless someone knows more it needs to be reviewed and renewed over time.
Then comes this most recently to my attention today.
WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. intelligence community will now be able to store information about Americans with no ties to terrorism for up to five years under new Obama administration guidelines.
Until now, the National Counterterrorism Center had to immediately destroy information about Americans that was already stored in other government databases when there were no clear ties to terrorism.
Giving the NCTC expanded record-retention authority had been called for by members of Congress who said the intelligence community did not connect strands of intelligence held by multiple agencies leading up to the failed bombing attempt on a Detroit-bound airliner on Christmas 2009.
"Following the failed terrorist attack in December 2009, representatives of the counterterrorism community concluded it is vital for NCTC to be provided with a variety of datasets from various agencies that contain terrorism information," Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said in a statement late Thursday. "The ability to search against these datasets for up to five years on a continuing basis as these updated guidelines permit will enable NCTC to accomplish its mission more practically and effectively."
The new rules replace guidelines issued in 2008 and have privacy advocates concerned about the potential for data-mining information on innocent Americans.
"It is a vast expansion of the government's surveillance authority," Marc Rotenberg, executive director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, said of the five-year retention period.
The government put in strong safeguards at the NCTC for the data that would be collected on U.S. citizens for intelligence purposes, Rotenberg said. These new guidelines undercut the Federal Privacy Act, he said.
"The fact that this data can be retained for five years on U.S. citizens for whom there's no evidence of criminal conduct is very disturbing," Rotenberg said.
"Total Information Awareness appears to be reconstructing itself," Rotenberg said, referring to the Defense Department's post-9/11 data-mining research program that was killed in 2003 because of privacy concerns.
The Washington Post first reported the new rules Thursday.
The Obama administration said the new rules come with strong safeguards for privacy and civil liberties as well. Before the NCTC may obtain data held by another government agency, there is a high-level review to assure that the data "is likely to contain significant terrorism information," Alexander Joel, the civil liberties protection officer at national intelligence directorate, said in a news release Thursday.
The NCTC was created after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks to be the central U.S. organization to analyze and integrate intelligence regarding terrorism.
Best comment I saw about this was this
Politicians know that they are leading the country to a path of economic collapse. They know that the time will come when the goverment will have to take military control of the country. The goverment has passed numerous laws using terrorism as cover to lay the groundwork for martial law and imprisonment without due process. Just as democrats didn't say anything when Bush first passed his patriot act republicans are not saying anything about the laws currently being passed.
My opinion is The politicians want to be able to protect themselves when there is an uprising from the people who are outraged and no longer standing for broken politics.
There will be a gun grab it is inevitable in my opinion. I respect the honesty that many express here as I truly just give my heart felt thoughts and opinions too.
If the government whether it be obama or another hitler enacts martial law here in America and trys to grab our guns I promise you on my childrens lives and my own they or you if you are military and are ordered to come take my guns will do it only after you have taken my life first. That is not a threat nor a dare it is just how it will be with me personally.
Thank you for your service Brenden ( and all here on A/C ) thats awful you had to be put in a situation like that, and you handled it professionally. I dont like Obama, but I especially dont like a rude MF'er, that would be like that either.
im voting for obama just so i can hear you guys cry for 4 more years.
Great post Breden, on the video game czar thing, not exactly sure what a czar is but it sounds like a good move by Obama, considering the global gaming industry is worth $60 billion + and will only continue to rise, supporting this industry can only be good.