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ianstone
04-30-2010, 09:10 AM
http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00441/SNN2505GX1-280_441898a.jpg Hanging ... what's your view?




Germans brought us noose

By TIM SPANTON


HANGING was brought to Britain by German invaders 1,600 years ago.
Thieves, blasphemers, prisoners of war and killers could all hang.
The village of Tyburn, now Marble Arch in central London, became the main place of execution in the 1200s.
The condemned were paraded along Tyburn Road, later renamed Oxford Street, to the Tyburn Tree.
Oliver Cromwell was hanged on it in 1661, after he had been DEAD for three years. Public hangings, popular in the 1700s when over 200 crimes could lead to the gallows, ended in 1868.
Petty thief John Lee, 20, survived in 1884 when the Exeter Jail scaffold failed to open THREE times. He got life imprisonment instead.
Gwynne Evans, 24, and Peter Allen, 21, who murdered a man in Workington, Cumbria, were the last to hang, on August 13, 1964.
Ruth Ellis, 28, who killed her lover in North London, was the last woman to be executed, on July 13, 1955.



Black cap for death



A PRISONER knew he faced the death penalty when the judge reached for the "black cap" - a nine-inch square piece of cloth.
The judge would ask if there was "any reason" he should not pass sentence, as clerics and pregnant women could be exempted.
If neither applied, he put the cap on his wig and told the prisoner he'd be taken "to a place of execution where you will be hanged by the neck until you are dead".
He would finish: "May the Lord have mercy upon your soul." Judges still carry black caps in their regalia.








ALMOST 100,000 Sun readers unite today to call for the return of the death penalty.

Monster Mark Dixie, Suffolk Strangler Steve Wright and the teenage killers of hero dad Garry Newlove have sickened the nation in recent weeks as details emerged of their vile crimes.
All received jail sentences. But as the clamour grew for the return of capital punishment, The Sun on Saturday dared to ask the burning question: “Do we really want it back?”


And a staggering 99 per cent of the 95,000 readers who responded to our You The Jury poll said the Government SHOULD reintroduce it.
Their mood was summed up by dad-of-four Brian Steede, who said in Brighton, Sussex: “Why should taxpayers pay for the likes of Wright and Dixie to live in prison?
“They took away their victims’ human rights and gave up theirs when they committed their hideous crimes. Bring back hanging, I say.”
Our readers’ views were backed by many of the families whose lives have been cruelly torn apart by killers now serving time behind bars.
And they were supported by senior political figures including Shadow Home Secretary David Davis and some religious leaders.

Horrifying


But others – including Sara Payne, whose daughter Sarah died at the hands of paedophile Roy Whiting – remain firmly AGAINST the return of capital punishment, permanently abolished in Britain for murder in 1969.
Garry Newlove, 47, was beaten to death by thugs he confronted outside his Warrington house last year.
Swaggering killers Adam Swellings, 19, Stephen Sorton, 17, and Jordan Cunliffe, 16, showed no remorse when sentenced at Chester Crown Court. Swellings will serve a minimum 17 years, Sorton at least 15 and Cunliffe at least 12.

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00441/SNN2504-A-180_441895a.jpg Yes ... says Helen Newlove

But widow Helen Newlove, 45, called for the ultimate punishment.
She said: “For many, the death penalty is murder by another name – a chilling relic from an uncivilised past.
“Yes, the thought of bringing it back may be unpalatable. But the horrifying events of the past week have strengthened my conviction that the hangman is the answer.
“It’s not about revenge. It’s about a just society imposing a fitting punishment for those who have committed a uniquely horrifying crime.”

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00441/SNN2505A-X-180_441896a.jpg Yes ... says Richard Taylor

Helen’s opinion was mirrored by Richard Taylor, dad of ten-year-old schoolboy Damilola – stabbed to death by Danny and Ricky Preddie in Peckham, South London, in 2000.
The lawless savages, then 18 and 19, were convicted of manslaughter in 2006 and jailed for eight years.
But ex-civil servant Richard, 59, said: “Is it right that the killers of our beautiful son will be released next year after only serving three years in prison? Of course it isn’t.
“The death penalty has to be brought back because it is the only deterrent available. It won’t bring my son back, but how many would commit these awful murders if they knew the gallows or a lethal injection was waiting? Few, I suspect.”
Chef Dixie, 37, received a life term last Friday for stabbing to death 18-year-old Sally Anne Bowman – and having sex with her corpse.

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00441/SNN2505B-X-180_441892a.jpg Yes ... says LInda Bowman

Her mum Linda Bowman, 45, said: “Men like Dixie are like a dog.
“Once they draw blood they should be put down. I wish this was America and we had the lethal injection.”
Strangler Wright, 49, killed five women working as hookers in Ipswich.
Kerry Nicol, 38, whose 19-year-old daughter Tania was his first victim, said of his life sentence: “In no way has justice been done. These crimes deserve the ultimate punishment. The public must insist this Government look at returning the death penalty for cases such as this.”
Isabella Clennell, the mother of Wright’s last victim Paula, 24, said: “I wish we still had the death penalty. This is what he truly deserves.”
Even Wright’s only son said his father should be put to death.
Builder Mike Wright was stunned to learn of his dad’s crimes. He told The Sun: “My father took those girls’ lives. They should take his as well.”
Mike, 27 – abandoned at just two years old by his evil dad in Milford Haven, West Wales – added: “They don’t have hanging now, but if they did he should hang. What gives him the right to take a person’s life?
“I’d like to think he’s not guilty – but if he is he should get everything that’s coming to him.
“As it is I am glad that he has been put away for ever.”
The mother of little James Bulger, killed by ten-year-olds Robert Thompson and Jon Venables in 1993, also backed the return of the rope.



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Denise Fergus, 38, claimed the rash of recent cases prove the point.
She said: “Beasts like them don’t deserve to breathe the same air as decent people – they should hang.
“The law must be brought up to date to take account of DNA tests. In cases with no scientific doubt, there’s no chance of hanging a wrong man.” The mum of Moors murder victim Keith Bennett said all serial killers should receive the death penalty.
Heartbroken Winnie Johnson, 74, lost her 12-year-old in 1964 when evil Ian Brady and Myra Hindley lured him to his death on Saddleworth Moor, Greater Manchester.

Winnie said: “Monsters like Brady and now this sick Steve Wright creature do not deserve life, or our pity.
“We should stop thinking about what’s best for people who murder our women and children. They’ll never change however long they are caged.”
The sister of Ruth Ellis, the last woman hanged in Britain, ALSO said the death penalty should return.

Question ... The
Sun on Saturday

Muriel Jakubait, 86, said killers like Wright and Dixie should be “strung up and killed” rather than spend an easy life in prison. She said: “It would set an example. Serial killers don’t deserve to live.”
Shadow Home Secretary David Davis said he stood by his views that Britain should bring back the death penalty for serial killers.
He faced a storm of controversy in 2003 for suggesting its return.
But he said: “I would bring back capital punishment for serial murderers. This is not a crime of passion – it’s premeditated and cold-blooded.”
Former Home Office Minister Anne Widdecombe also wants a return.
She said: “I believe it acts as a deterrent. It should be available in cases of premeditated murder.”

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00441/SNN2505C-X-180_441894a.jpg No ... says Sara Payne

Yet Sara Payne, mum of murdered schoolgirl Sarah, nine, is against the death penalty despite her ordeal. Sara said: “I don’t think anyone should be able to take another’s life.

It’s one of our core values as human beings living in a civilised country that you do not kill.
“A lot of people think it should be introduced for child killers. But I favour locking them up for ever and ensuring they have a horrible time.”
But tens of thousands of Sun readers flooded our offices with calls and emails demanding the reintroduction of capital punishment.
Janice Longman, 35, from Hartlepool, said: “The young these days are not scared of prison. They know they will have access to computers, PlayStations, gyms and whatever.
“If the death penalty was introduced maybe they’d think twice about kicking people to death.”
Ian Dennis said in an email: “I agree to bringing back the death sentence as there is too much killing on our streets these days. An eye for an eye. This country is too soft.”
But not all were in agreement. One female reader said: “No. Plain and simple. We cannot have a law that says man cannot murder but, if you do and get caught, we as a government can then kill you.
“That makes you no better than the people who go out and murder.”

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I am a hang'um and flog them man, but this is also a failure within prisons. Rehabilitation is a joke and a very expensive joke. We don't feel safe and the violence is more vicious and the use of knives and guns more prevalent. Most of us see the political parties as corrupt. The police are a joke and run on a shoestring
the vast majority are dismissive and rude, however that's understandable because they have to treat scum with kid gloves. The criminal think its holiday time. Without hanging and without zero tolerance we are screwed. We had a taste of zero telerance a few years ago, what a breath of fresh air to us decent people.
I believe his name was, Insp Mallan or mallin The local governments crapped themselves because said he would go for bent police and bent local government as well as the ordinary criminal

joelee
04-30-2010, 07:34 PM
I believe in the death penalty for 1st degree murder, murder committed in the commision of a felony, and most especially for child molesters. They have been proven to be rehabilitated, and pose a danger to children for the rest of their lives. Lets get rid of that danger.

dmaxx3500
05-01-2010, 05:35 PM
if a dog kills your kids ,you don't make your new pet,you put it down,

ianstone
05-01-2010, 09:03 PM
Being killed by others whilst on duty, Death
Arranging someones death, Death
Lying as a police officer, falsifying evidence. Fit up Job.
Sorry the Copper gets, death, because his evidence that results in the death of an innocent man.
Treason, Death
Multi million dollar scams/ fraud, Death.
Anyone found during or after a trial of perjury leading to an innocent mans death,death.
Unauthorised access to sensitive military information, Spying, Death.
We need to protect the good from the bad
and the patriot against the anti country, red,white and blue
I seriously believe all the above.
Leaving you dog in the boot of your car with your wife for an hour, animal cruelty, Death. Take note Mel! Hmmmm.

angusnra
05-01-2010, 09:09 PM
Once the jury decides DEATH, maybe they should decide the method.
This may deter a lot of crime.
On animal cruelty: I do NOT condone animal cruelty, but NO human life should be matched with the life of a fucking animal.

ianstone
05-02-2010, 11:19 AM
The Animal death sentence, is an ongoing joke with Mel.
The rest I believe in Angusnra.