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nastyleg
03-29-2010, 02:33 PM
9 militia members charged in police-killing plot

By COREY WILLIAMS and DEVLIN BARRETT
Associated Press Writers

DETROIT (AP) - Nine suspects tied to a Christian militia that was preparing for the Antichrist were charged with conspiring to kill police officers, then attack a funeral using homemade bombs in the hopes of killing more law enforcement personnel, federal prosecutors said Monday.

The Michigan-based group, called Hutaree, planned to use the attack on police as a catalyst for a larger uprising against the government, according to newly unsealed court papers. U.S. Attorney Barbara McQuade said agents moved on the group because its members were planning a violent mission sometime in April.

Members of the group, including its leader, David Brian Stone, also known as "Captain Hutaree," were charged following FBI raids over the weekend on locations in Michigan, Ohio and Indiana. Seven people were arraigned in Detroit on Monday, and another one of Stone's sons, Joshua, is being sought.

Stone's ex-wife, Donna Stone, told The Associated Press before the arraignments that her former husband was to blame for pulling her son into the movement. She said David Brian Stone legally adopted her son, David Brian Stone Jr., who is among those indicted.

"It started out as a Christian thing," said Donna Stone, 44. "You go to church. You pray. You take care of your family. I think David started to take it a little too far."

The group says on its Web site that Hutaree means "Christian warrior" and describes the word as part of a secret language that only a few people are privileged enough to know. The group quotes several Bible passages and states: "We believe that one day, as prophecy says, there will be an Anti-Christ. ... Jesus wanted us to be ready to defend ourselves using the sword and stay alive using equipment."

The site also features a picture on the site of 17 camouflaged men, all holding large guns, and includes videos of camouflaged men toting guns and running through wooded areas in apparent training exercises. Each wears a patch on the left shoulder with a cross.

According to investigators, the Hutaree view local, state, and federal law enforcement personnel as a "brotherhood" and an enemy, and planned to attack them as part of an armed struggle against the U.S. government.

The idea of attacking a police funeral was one of numerous scenarios discussed as ways to go after law enforcement officers, the indictment said. Other scenarios included a fake 911 call to lure an officer to his or her death, or an attack on the family of a police officer.

Once other officers gathered for a slain officer's funeral, the group planned to detonate homemade bombs at the funeral, killing scores more, according to the indictment.

After the attacks, the group allegedly planned to retreat to "rally points" protected by trip-wired improvised explosive devices, or IEDs, for what they expected would become a violent standoff with law enforcement personnel.

The indictment says members of the group conspired "to levy war against the United States, (and) to oppose by force the authority of the government of the United States."

The charges against the eight include seditious conspiracy, possessing a firearm during a crime of violence, teaching the use of explosives, and attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction- homemade bombs. All seven defendants in court on Monday requested to be represented by the federal defender's office, and a bond hearing is set for Wednesday.

The arrests have dealt "a severe blow to a dangerous organization that today stands accused of conspiring to levy war against the United States," U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said Monday.

The raids on the group began over the weekend. FBI agents in Michigan swarmed a rural, wooded property Saturday evening in Adrian, about 70 miles southwest of Detroit. The same night in Hammond, Ind., law enforcement agents flooded a neighborhood, startling workers at a nearby pizzeria. In Ohio, authorities blocked off streets and raided two homes.

Outside Adrian, Heidi Wood, who lives near the property that was raided, said she hears gunshots "all the time" from near two ramshackle trailers that sit side-by-side. On Monday, a long gun leaned against a washing machine that sat in the yard, and on top of a nearby canister was another long gun.

Wood's mother, Phyllis Brugger, who has lived in the area for more than 30 years, said Stone and his family were known as having ties to militia. They would shoot guns and often wore camouflage, she said.

"Everybody knew they were militia," Brugger said. "You don't mess with them."

In Hammond, 18-year-old George Ponce, who works at a pizzeria next door to a home that was raided, said he and a few co-workers stepped outside for a break Saturday night and saw a swarm of law enforcement.

"I heard a yell, 'Get back inside!' and saw a squad member pointing a rifle at us," Ponce said. "They told us the bomb squad was going in, sweeping the house looking for bombs."

He said another agent was in the bushes near the house, and law enforcement vehicles were "all over." He estimated that agents took more than two dozen guns from the house.

In Ohio, one of the raids occurred at Bayshore Estates, a well-kept trailer park in Sandusky, a small city on Lake Erie between Toledo and Cleveland. Neighbors said the man taken into custody lived in a trailer on a cul-de-sac with his wife and two young children.

http://www.ktar.com/?nid=509&sid=1278566

Sixx
03-29-2010, 04:24 PM
"Christian militia that was preparing for the Antichrist"

Some people fucking amaze me with their twisted ass shit.....
Crazy ass people out there.

scoutsout80
03-29-2010, 05:47 PM
fuck those dumbasses....watch the media blame the Tea Party

Sixx
03-29-2010, 07:56 PM
I found their froum.....I ain't about to make a membership to see what they are all about.
http://www.hutaree.com/forum/

nastyleg
03-29-2010, 08:24 PM
Wow

MickDonalds
03-29-2010, 09:25 PM
You know, I'm in no way condoning their behavior or platform, but I'd rather the media NOT target Christian militias. Let's keep the focus on Islamic Recruiting sites and other actual dangerous internal groups such as MS-13.

I'm not saying they're right or anything, but hey, if the world ends, or if the US gets invaded, they're going to be an EXTREMELY valuable insurgent cell platform that the shattered US resistance will have to rely on for logistics, weapon support, terrain association, safe housing, etc.

Sorry, just being a little nutty.. :P

nastyleg
03-29-2010, 11:04 PM
Who are the Christian militia 'Hutaree' and why was the FBI targeting them?

This weekend, the FBI conducted a series of raids in Michigan, Ohio, and Indiana to detain members of a Christian militia group on criminal charges. So what does this group believe, and how do its members fit in with the larger radical right?

The group in question calls itself the "Hutaree"; its website says the term translates as "Christian warrior." And in keeping with that name, the material it has posted online reflects an outlook of violent religious confrontation. The Hutaree believe that acts of violence can bring about the final judgment prophesied in the Christian Bible — and therefore have been arming themselves to go to war with the Antichrist, "evil Jews," and Muslims. They have documented their training exercises in a series of YouTube videos. And they spell out the theological rationale for their actions on the "About Us" page on their website:

Jesus wanted us to be ready to defend ourselves using the sword and stay alive using equipment. The only thing on earth to save the testimony and those who follow it, are the members of the testimony, til the return of Christ in the clouds. We, the Hutaree, are prepared to defend all those who belong to Christ and save those who aren't. We will still spread the word, and fight to keep it, up to the time of the great coming ... The Hutaree will one day see its enemy and meet him on the battlefield if so God wills it. We will reach out to those who are yet blind in the last days of the kingdoms of men and bring them to life in Christ.

According to the indictment unsealed this morning in court, the nine members of the group — eight men and one woman — planned to "levy war" against the U.S. government. To incite such a war, the group planned to murder law enforcement officials and then follow up their initial attacks with a separate attack on the fallen officers' funeral(s), where a large number of law enforcement personnel would no doubt be gathered.

With other news of vandalism and harassment from right-wing activists angry about the passage of health care reform, some commentators are already depicting the arrests as a further sign of how conservative activists are promoting violence in their ranks. But even within the militant world of the Michigan militia movement, the Hutarees are viewed as extreme religious fanatics. Michael Lackomar, a leader of the Southeast Michigan Volunteer Militia, told the Associated Press that he'd fielded a frantic call from a Hutaree member Saturday night reporting the onset of the federal raids. After hearing pleas for help, Lackomar said that his group declined. "They said that they were under attack by the ATF and wanted a place to hide," Lackomar recalls. "My team leaders said, 'No thanks.' "

A posting on a Hutaree message board by someone named Anna seems to back up Lackomar's claim that Hutaree members were seeking help from other militia groups in the area.

"We need some help please," she wrote. "I am enroute south with my children using the wifi's as I can. They were catching others as they came to their rallying points, they broke into homes and took children and used the tasers on wives, my son who is 12 and I got out by crawling through the creeks behind our house. My husband and others are taken, please call the press and tell them, if any in the Michigan Militia is still free please rally with them. Please help."

Still, while the more secular and libertarian leaders of the militia movement may distance themselves from the Hutaree, the two militant strains of right-wing activism share some tactical affinities, says Kenneth S. Stern, the American Jewish Committee's director on anti-Semitism and extremism. "What you're starting to see in the number of militia groups sprouting up in the last year is a general antigovernment ideology," Stern says. "The targeting of cops is not inconsistent with that. The literature that glorified that white supremacist movement that helped the militia movement take off in the 1990s advocated those tactics — especially in books like 'The Turner Diaries.' And some of these groups — like the Order and others — started setting traps for law enforcement and going after first responders."

Stern cautions that it's too soon to draw broader lessons from the alleged Hutaree plot. But he does add that "whenever you have a combination of the ideology that says, 'the government is evil and we'd better do something about it,' and a religion that says, 'Hey, God wants you to do something about it,' that can be problematic."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts1361

Pittsburgh
03-29-2010, 11:24 PM
According to the indictment unsealed this morning in court, the nine members of the group — eight men and one woman — planned to "levy war" against the U.S. government. To incite such a war, the group planned to murder law enforcement officials and then follow up their initial attacks with a separate attack on the fallen officers' funeral(s), where a large number of law enforcement personnel would no doubt be gathered.

Crazy wack-a-doo's.

They are obviously a threat to society and are now getting what they deserve. Whatever happened to being good little nutbags and simply drinking the cyanide laced kool-aid and leaving the rest of us alone? You want to off yourself? Be my guest. Why attack the innocent? There is no excuse for it.

nastyleg
03-30-2010, 02:04 AM
what the media is missing is the fact that other militas are not helping them.

ianstone
03-30-2010, 05:26 AM
And here is me thinking the F.B.I. is doing nothing new. I thought they were looking for religious psychotic extremist, who are crazed, hate the law enforcement.
The F.B.I. has not been the same since Efrem Zimbalist Jr quit

Sixx
03-30-2010, 12:03 PM
what the media is missing is the fact that other militas are not helping them.

Exactly, Militias have a bad rap as it is.....In my opinion not all militias are bad.

nastyleg
03-30-2010, 01:16 PM
Militias are there to help protect the individual freedoms when the time comes that martial law is declared and the state has thrown out the constitution and is ruling by either a dictatorship or military rule.

MickDonalds
03-30-2010, 06:06 PM
Exactly, Militias have a bad rap as it is.....In my opinion not all militias are bad.

Agreed. If enough Veterans joined them, they'd be recognized as legit.

DefensorFortis
03-30-2010, 06:38 PM
Well in my opinion about 99% of militias are just guys who like to go out on the weekend and dress up in their camo with their legal licensed guns and shoot up the country side, not people. But then you have that 1% who are the rascist christian "jihadist" assholes who do what they do as training for what they believe will be the real deal, the real deal meaning shooting up people who they think are the enemy. I visited their website and saw some vids. I've got to tell you it looks just like the footage people saw on the news of al'qaeda training in Afghanistan and Yemen, pretty chilling. But most of the militias are pretty trustworthy, and if the federals do decide to tear up the constitution, them and good sensible people in the military will do what John Locke said to do.

Sixx
03-30-2010, 07:18 PM
Here's their mugshots

MickDonalds
03-30-2010, 09:52 PM
Looking at them I just want to shout out "A-Hyuck!"

lol

nastyleg
03-31-2010, 02:09 AM
Here's their mugshots

i just puked in my mouth

scoutsout80
03-31-2010, 02:16 AM
i just puked in my mouth

Dronk drink so much....hahahahaha

Pittsburgh
03-31-2010, 02:24 AM
http://www.apacheclips.com/boards/attachment.php?attachmentid=6608&stc=1&d=1269991075

This is all I have to say about that lineup...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gLN3QoN-q8

MickDonalds
03-31-2010, 10:47 AM
Quick! Somebody post the South Park Indiana Jones Deliverance Rape scene, lol

ianstone
03-31-2010, 01:13 PM
Equal to extremist rag heads, these look inter bread misfits.