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nastyleg
03-05-2010, 05:51 PM
British PM: U.S. to blame for early Iraq woes

LONDON — British Prime Minister Gordon Brown insisted Friday the decision to invade Iraq was justified, but told a major inquiry into the war that the United States dismissed warnings of chaos and violence once Saddam Hussein was toppled.

In four hours of evidence to Britain’s inquiry on Iraq, a somber Brown repeatedly expressed regret over the lost lives of soldiers and civilians, and acknowledged mistakes were made by leaders in Washington and London.

Brown, who served as Treasury chief from 1997 to 2007 and approved military spending, dismissed claims he had choked Britain’s defense budgets or allowed soldiers to go to war without adequate equipment.

Defending his role in the conflict, but cautious not to inflame tensions over the unpopular war ahead of a looming national election campaign, Brown said joining the 2003 U.S.-led invasion was a tough call.

“We have got to recognize that war may be necessary, but it is also tragic in the effect it has on people’s lives,” said Brown, who voted — like a majority of British lawmakers — to approve Britain’s role in the war.

“These were difficult decisions ... ” Brown said. “I believe they were the right decisions for the right reasons.”

But he was critical of U.S. planning, saying American officials failed to heed warnings about the need for clarity on how to protect and govern Iraq in the aftermath of the invasion.

“It was one of my regrets that I wasn’t able to be more successful in pushing the Americans on this issue — that the planning for reconstruction was essential, just the same as planning for the war,” Brown said. He said he’d drafted a paper listing British reconstruction plans and sent it to the U.S. government in early March 2003.

The inquiry is Britain’s third and widest-ranging examination of the conflict, which triggered huge protests and left 179 British troops dead before the country’s forces withdrew from Iraq last year. The inquiry won’t apportion blame or establish liability, but will offer recommendations later this year on how to prevent errors in the future.

Brown initially appeared nervous as he began his testimony — toying with his suit jacket and a leather file containing a thick sheaf of notes — but soon relaxed, even smiling to members of the audience as he left for a lunch break.

“How are you finding it?” Brown asked onlookers as the hearing broke for a recess, though his question was met with silence.

Brown’s evidence followed testimony in January by former Prime Minister Tony Blair, who led the country to war.

Unlike Blair, who defiantly stood by the invasion and argued Saddam was a threat to the entire world, Brown said he believed the war was justified because Baghdad had breached international rules in failing to abide by U.N. resolutions.

He insisted Iraq had posed the first serious test to the post-Cold War world, claiming any failure to depose the Iraqi leader would have emboldened other dictators and stirred global tensions.

Brown also sought to distance himself from President George W. Bush, suggesting their relations were “amicable” and criticizing the doctrine of some members of Bush’s administration.

“I never subscribed to what you might call the neo-conservative proposition that somehow, at the barrel of a gun, overnight, liberty or democracy could be conjured up,” Brown told the panel.

In contrast to Blair’s electric evidence, audience members yawned and stretched as Brown testified — two people even left during a morning coffee break, leaving empty two prized seats earlier allocated in a public ballot.

Brown acknowledged that while he had played an important role in the Iraq war, he had not been invited to some key meetings and was unaware of the detail of letters exchanged between Blair and Bush.

“I had regular conversations with Tony Blair and we talked about those issues, but I do not have copies of those letters and I don’t know the exact conversation — and he wouldn’t expect me to,” he said.

Critics have charged that Brown cut military budgets, meaning troops lacked adequate equipment in Iraq and Afghanistan. Gen. Michael Walker, a former head of the British armed forces, said in an earlier hearing that the country’s senior military chiefs threatened to resign in a dispute with Brown in 2004 over funds.

Brown told the panel Britain spent $12 billion (£8 billion) on the Iraq war on top of annual defense budgets.

“At any point, commanders were able to ask for equipment that they needed and I know of no occasion when they were turned down,” he insisted.

As he arrived for the hearing, Brown was heckled by a small band of protesters, though most dispersed well before he completed his testimony. During breaks in the hearing, Brown held private talks with some bereaved families.

Susan Smith, whose 21-year-old son, British Army Pvt. Phillip Hewett, died in Iraq in 2005, watched inside the hearing room and questioned whether the forthcoming election had influenced Brown.

“I imagine he’s genuinely sorry, but is it for political reasons that he said it?” Smith said.

Initially, Brown planned to testify after Britain’s election, which is expected to be held May 6, but — under pressure from opposition lawmakers — later agreed to give evidence beforehand.

John Chilcot, head of the inquiry, has said he will seek meetings with former members of the Bush administration in the next few months.


http://www.armytimes.com/news/2010/03/ap_iraq_britain_inquiry_brown_030510/

MickDonalds
03-06-2010, 10:25 PM
Ohhhh of course. Pull a "Euro" and BLAME AMERICA FOR EVERYTHING. Gee, the Germans, French, Italians, Dutch, Danes, Belgians and everyone else does it, might as well try and save some credibility and not admit responsibility by blaming our ally, right Gordo? Chickenshit fuck.

GTFPDQ
03-06-2010, 11:35 PM
Whoa, the UK is to blame for its own short comings in the invasion of Iraq, BUT, it can be argued that it was led into into it by the US. Iraq, cpuld have been left alone and it would have carried on regardless. This is not a case of blame the US, its a case of shame on the UK government for acting with the US, if there were real military reservations.

Pittsburgh
03-07-2010, 09:39 AM
and questioned whether the forthcoming election had influenced Brown

Of course it did. It's time to play the political blame game. It's much easier for Brown to simply blame our country and make himself out to be the man who had the military plan this whole time. General Montgomery over there.

Unfortunately, it's not easy to liberate a country, topple a hideous goverment with long and deep roots and basically establish a brand new country from the bottom on up while dealing with a terrorist insurgency in a short period of time. It's much easier to sit behind a desk while sipping tea and eating a crumpet while tossing out blame in order to get your political shots in before election time.

Arrogant jagoff.

ianstone
03-07-2010, 06:31 PM
I'm British, I can say with absolute certainty. Gordon Brown is a two faced lying pig, who does not speak for us the ordinary people of the country.
He has caused deaths of the military in Afghanistan.
My own personal view, he is worse than a child molester
He needs a .50cal four inches from his left ear. Straight between his fucking eyes.

GTFPDQ
03-08-2010, 02:37 AM
No fucking politician speak for the people, if they did nothing would be done. Its not a consensus, its not inclusion, politics is a self serving self perpetuating career. Brown wanted to use power against Blair, and he held the purse strings. The troops were the playing pieces. A .50 costs way to much and is needed by the boys. .22 up close will do.

dmaxx3500
03-12-2010, 10:23 AM
yep,its all george bush's fault