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Stark
02-04-2010, 08:02 AM
Published on Monday, February 1, 2010 by CommonDreams.org

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/02/01-3

by Ira Chernus

What's it like to be a woman serving in the Israeli occupation force in the West Bank? Is a woman's experience as an occupier any different than a man's? Yes indeed, say some women who have just broken their silence and offered a glimpse into the grim reality of the occupation.

"A female combat soldier needs to prove more," one explains. "A female soldier who beats up others is a serious fighter...When I arrived there was another female [who] was there before me...Everyone spoke of how impressive she is because she humiliates Arabs without any problem. That was the indicator. You have to see her, the way she humiliates, the way she slaps them, wow, she really slapped that guy."

This "impressive" woman is not a rare exception. "We discovered that the girls try to be even more violent and brutal than the boys, just to become one of the guys," says Dana Golan, director of Breaking the Silence, the Israeli organization that has just released a report with testimony from some 50 Israeli women who are veterans of the occupation.

The report "indicates how violence was deeply rooted in the daily routine," according to an article in Yediot Aharonot, one of Israel's most widely-read newspapers, full of disturbing quotes from the women. One who served at the Erez crossing between Israel and Gaza explained that "there was a procedure in which before you release a Palestinian back into the Strip -- you take him inside the tent and beat him. ... together with the commanders."

For Israelis who care to pay attention, another revelation of routine violence, sanctioned and sometimes even led by officers, hardly comes as news. Breaking the Silence has been offering the Israeli public such eyewitness testimony from Israeli soldiers since 2004. What is news is the first insight into the distinctive experience of women:

"The female soldiers repeatedly mention the particular difficulties they had as women, who had to prove that to were ‘fighters' in the midst of the goading male soldiers on the one hand, and the Palestinians, who have a hard time handling women in uniform on the other hand."

One woman recalled an incident several years ago when a Palestinian man laughed at her, because (or so she thought) she was a woman in uniform. She had to "salvage her self-respect," she says. So she moved close to the man, "as if I was about to kiss him. I told him, 'Come, come, what are you afraid of? Come to me!' And I hit him in the balls. I told him, 'Why aren't you laughing?' He was in shock, and then he realized ... not to laugh."

"It shouldn't reach such a situation," the woman says now. "The system is deeply flawed. The entire administration, the way things are run, it's not right."

Palestinian women have a distinctive experience, too. "Was there abuse of women?", an interviewer asked. "Yes," a woman soldier replied. "Slaps, that kind of thing. Mainly slaps. ... It was mainly the female combat soldiers who beat people. ... But also men, they had no problem slapping a woman around. If she screamed, they'd say, 'Shut it,' with another slap. A routine of violence. There were also those who didn't take part, but everyone knew it happened."

Sometimes, as the Breaking the Silence report indicates, the level of brutality grows beyond comprehension: a five year old child beaten; a nine year old who "posed no danger" shot to death; another child with both arms and both legs intentionally broken. The Yediot Aharonoth article offers a series of such horrifying incidents. When the full report is available on the Breaking the Silence website, it will be surely include even more heart-breaking tales.

Each soldier, male or female, is responsible for their own individual actions, of course. But this report raises disturbing questions about the society that requires them to serve in the military and then sends them on such a brutalizing mission, one that dehumanizes the perpetrators as well as their victims.

Most disturbing, perhaps, is their common explanation for the violence the inflict: The soldiers' daily routine in the Occupied Territories "is boring, so we'd create some action. We'd get on the radio, and say they threw stones at us, then someone would be arrested, they'd start investigating him... There was a policewoman, she was bored, so okay, she said they threw stones at her. They asked her who threw them. 'I don't know, two in grey shirts, I didn't manage to see them.' They catch two guys with grey shirts... beat them. Is it them? 'No, I don't think so.' Okay, a whole incident, people get beaten up. Nothing happened that day."

Another woman, describing a common ritual of humiliating and beating Palestinians at checkpoints, agreed: "It could go on for hours, depending on how bored they are. A shift is eight hours long, the times must be passed somehow."

The boredom is not a gendered experience. I heard exactly the same thing last year from a young Israeli man, now actively working to oppose the occupation. When he manned a checkpoint, at the tender age of 18, he would start each day intent on treating Palestinians humanely, he said. But as the hours went on -- as the boredom, the occasional inevitable conflicts, and often the oppressive heat, grew -- he would become more irritable, more violent, more likely to abuse his power.

Boredom and its minor irritations can easily lead young people, many of them still teenagers, to commit senseless violence. We see it happening in civilian life in most every nation, far too often. But when we see it we call it anti-social and dysfunctional, a problem to be addressed by society. We assume that society at large has a different norm, a more constructive way of dealing with boredom, which should be taught to the misbehaving youth.

Perhaps antisocial violence, wherever it occurs, is always a symptom of a whole society's dysfunction. But in this case the connection between individual and society is especially obvious and glaring. The antisocial Israeli youth are wearing their nation's uniform, acting (sometimes under orders) in the name of "national security," often praised for their violent behavior, and virtually never disciplined no matter how far they go.

They've grown up in a Jewish society that tends to treat Palestinians (not always, but far too often) as inherently dangerous, evil, inferior, and deserving whatever harm comes to them. It's hardly surprising that many of them would so easily cross the moral line into the realm of inhumanity.

Yet they've also grown up in a society that teaches them basic moral standards that should apply to all people. Most of the women interviewed in the report say they knew that what they were seeing, and sometimes doing, was wrong. But very few lodged any complaints, fearing the consequences if they spoke up. "I have to make a switch in my head and keep hating the Arabs and justify the Jews," one explained.

Now, these women, like their male colleagues, must live with the consequences of participating in a brutal occupation that many realize is a terrible moral, as well as political, mistake. Jewish Israeli society must live with the consequences of putting its young people into such an agonizing situation, where moral contradiction is an everyday fact of life. Worst of all, Palestinian society must go on paying the price for Israel's failure to bring its reality in line with its proclaimed principles.

Ira Chernus is Professor of Religious Studies at the University of Colorado at Boulder. Read more of his writing on Israel, Palestine, and the U.S. on his blog.

theshoebox
02-04-2010, 11:00 AM
Wow, that's insane. I don't even know what to say.

Yono
02-04-2010, 11:08 AM
Bahhh... I'd rather have tough women who don't take any shit then any other type of woman in the army.

LegioX
02-05-2010, 04:24 AM
Wow, that's insane. I don't even know what to say.

The author sounds like a terrorist sympathizer to me

scoutsout80
02-05-2010, 01:14 PM
Woman Israeli soldier, mmmm, I'd hit it.

Yono
02-05-2010, 02:59 PM
Woman Israeli soldier, mmmm, I'd hit it.

You should see it when they are at the beach. They cantleave their weapon so they come with their M16 in a bikini...mhmmmm

Dogger243
02-08-2010, 02:32 AM
Consider the source carefully. They are more than a little bit left of center.

gilgoul
02-09-2010, 06:49 AM
Published on Monday, February 1, 2010 by CommonDreams.org

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/02/01-3

by Ira Chernus

What's it like to be a woman serving in the Israeli occupation force in the West Bank? Is a woman's experience as an occupier any different than a man's? Yes indeed, say some women who have just broken their silence and offered a glimpse into the grim reality of the occupation.

"A female combat soldier needs to prove more," one explains. "A female soldier who beats up others is a serious fighter...When I arrived there was another female [who] was there before me...Everyone spoke of how impressive she is because she humiliates Arabs without any problem. That was the indicator. You have to see her, the way she humiliates, the way she slaps them, wow, she really slapped that guy."

This "impressive" woman is not a rare exception. "We discovered that the girls try to be even more violent and brutal than the boys, just to become one of the guys," says Dana Golan, director of Breaking the Silence, the Israeli organization that has just released a report with testimony from some 50 Israeli women who are veterans of the occupation.

The report "indicates how violence was deeply rooted in the daily routine," according to an article in Yediot Aharonot, one of Israel's most widely-read newspapers, full of disturbing quotes from the women. One who served at the Erez crossing between Israel and Gaza explained that "there was a procedure in which before you release a Palestinian back into the Strip -- you take him inside the tent and beat him. ... together with the commanders."

For Israelis who care to pay attention, another revelation of routine violence, sanctioned and sometimes even led by officers, hardly comes as news. Breaking the Silence has been offering the Israeli public such eyewitness testimony from Israeli soldiers since 2004. What is news is the first insight into the distinctive experience of women:

"The female soldiers repeatedly mention the particular difficulties they had as women, who had to prove that to were ‘fighters' in the midst of the goading male soldiers on the one hand, and the Palestinians, who have a hard time handling women in uniform on the other hand."

One woman recalled an incident several years ago when a Palestinian man laughed at her, because (or so she thought) she was a woman in uniform. She had to "salvage her self-respect," she says. So she moved close to the man, "as if I was about to kiss him. I told him, 'Come, come, what are you afraid of? Come to me!' And I hit him in the balls. I told him, 'Why aren't you laughing?' He was in shock, and then he realized ... not to laugh."

"It shouldn't reach such a situation," the woman says now. "The system is deeply flawed. The entire administration, the way things are run, it's not right."

Palestinian women have a distinctive experience, too. "Was there abuse of women?", an interviewer asked. "Yes," a woman soldier replied. "Slaps, that kind of thing. Mainly slaps. ... It was mainly the female combat soldiers who beat people. ... But also men, they had no problem slapping a woman around. If she screamed, they'd say, 'Shut it,' with another slap. A routine of violence. There were also those who didn't take part, but everyone knew it happened."

Sometimes, as the Breaking the Silence report indicates, the level of brutality grows beyond comprehension: a five year old child beaten; a nine year old who "posed no danger" shot to death; another child with both arms and both legs intentionally broken. The Yediot Aharonoth article offers a series of such horrifying incidents. When the full report is available on the Breaking the Silence website, it will be surely include even more heart-breaking tales.

Each soldier, male or female, is responsible for their own individual actions, of course. But this report raises disturbing questions about the society that requires them to serve in the military and then sends them on such a brutalizing mission, one that dehumanizes the perpetrators as well as their victims.

Most disturbing, perhaps, is their common explanation for the violence the inflict: The soldiers' daily routine in the Occupied Territories "is boring, so we'd create some action. We'd get on the radio, and say they threw stones at us, then someone would be arrested, they'd start investigating him... There was a policewoman, she was bored, so okay, she said they threw stones at her. They asked her who threw them. 'I don't know, two in grey shirts, I didn't manage to see them.' They catch two guys with grey shirts... beat them. Is it them? 'No, I don't think so.' Okay, a whole incident, people get beaten up. Nothing happened that day."

Another woman, describing a common ritual of humiliating and beating Palestinians at checkpoints, agreed: "It could go on for hours, depending on how bored they are. A shift is eight hours long, the times must be passed somehow."

The boredom is not a gendered experience. I heard exactly the same thing last year from a young Israeli man, now actively working to oppose the occupation. When he manned a checkpoint, at the tender age of 18, he would start each day intent on treating Palestinians humanely, he said. But as the hours went on -- as the boredom, the occasional inevitable conflicts, and often the oppressive heat, grew -- he would become more irritable, more violent, more likely to abuse his power.

Boredom and its minor irritations can easily lead young people, many of them still teenagers, to commit senseless violence. We see it happening in civilian life in most every nation, far too often. But when we see it we call it anti-social and dysfunctional, a problem to be addressed by society. We assume that society at large has a different norm, a more constructive way of dealing with boredom, which should be taught to the misbehaving youth.

Perhaps antisocial violence, wherever it occurs, is always a symptom of a whole society's dysfunction. But in this case the connection between individual and society is especially obvious and glaring. The antisocial Israeli youth are wearing their nation's uniform, acting (sometimes under orders) in the name of "national security," often praised for their violent behavior, and virtually never disciplined no matter how far they go.

They've grown up in a Jewish society that tends to treat Palestinians (not always, but far too often) as inherently dangerous, evil, inferior, and deserving whatever harm comes to them. It's hardly surprising that many of them would so easily cross the moral line into the realm of inhumanity.

Yet they've also grown up in a society that teaches them basic moral standards that should apply to all people. Most of the women interviewed in the report say they knew that what they were seeing, and sometimes doing, was wrong. But very few lodged any complaints, fearing the consequences if they spoke up. "I have to make a switch in my head and keep hating the Arabs and justify the Jews," one explained.

Now, these women, like their male colleagues, must live with the consequences of participating in a brutal occupation that many realize is a terrible moral, as well as political, mistake. Jewish Israeli society must live with the consequences of putting its young people into such an agonizing situation, where moral contradiction is an everyday fact of life. Worst of all, Palestinian society must go on paying the price for Israel's failure to bring its reality in line with its proclaimed principles.

Ira Chernus is Professor of Religious Studies at the University of Colorado at Boulder. Read more of his writing on Israel, Palestine, and the U.S. on his blog.

I don't know where this clown has been looking "testimonies", but after the second paragraph I dropped the "article".
I've been dozens of weeks posted at different check points inside Judea and Samaria, the worst "abuse " I ever witnessed was a slap given by a soldier to a Palestinian, and then saw the soldier being sentenced to a month in the brick.
And BTW, there are no "combat female soldiers" on duty in this area. There are military police, border guard and search dog handlers.
Anither BDSM fantasy of some anti "zionist" boy.

Yono
02-09-2010, 12:33 PM
And there we have it, from some one who has ACTUALY BEEN THERE. I bet the guy who made that article has never even been in the middle east....

rocky5544
02-12-2010, 03:58 PM
First, I really do not buy into this whole propaganda article, but for the sake of argument, lets say it is all true.

Who cares? Quite frankly, the people of that area deserve nothing less than a high powered bullet coursing through their brain. If all they get is a few slaps, they should thank their allah it is all they received.

These people love to hide the terrorist in their homes, chant anti Israel and American slogans, throw rocks and fire bombs at the soldiers, launch missiles into civilian areas, run into area filled with women and children only to detonate the bomb hidden in their clothes, etc but then want to play the victims part when a few of them get killed. I call horseshit on this and all of their cries of "I am the victim!" I also call horseshit on all of their foreign supporters who come up with crap like this. Israel, by all rights moral and otherwise, have long been justified in wiping that shit stain area out of existence long ago, yet they have refrained from doing so. Israel should quit buying into western political correctness and just wipe the Palestinian race from the face of the earth and should do it soon. They should also quit caring about what we say they should do.

Maybe instead of whining about some so called slaps, the cunts in that area and all the reporters who write this crap, should get down and on their hands and knees and thank Israel for letting them live another day and for only slapping their useless asses once in a while!

Yono
02-12-2010, 05:34 PM
First, I really do not buy into this whole propoganda article, but for the sake of argument, lets say it is all true.

Who cares? Quite frankly, the people of that area deserve nothing less than a high powered bullet coursing through their brain. If all they get is a few slaps, they should thank their allah it is all they received.

These people love to hid the terrorist in their homes, chant anti Isreal and American slogans, throw rocks and fire bombs at the soldiers, launch missles into civilian areas, run into area filled with women and children only to detonate the bomb hidden in their clothes, etc but then want to play the victims part when a few of them get killed. I call horseshit on this and all of their cries of "I am the victim!" I also call horseshit on all of their foriegn supporters who come up with crap like this. Isreal, by all rights moral and otherwise, have long been justified in wiping that shit stain area out of excistence long ago, yet they have refrained from doing so. Isreal should quit buying into western political correctness and just wipe the Palestinian race from the face of the earth and should do it soon. They should also quit caring about what we say they should do.

Maybe instead of whining about some so called slaps, the cunts in that area and all the reporters who write this crap, should get down and on their hands and knees and thank Isreal for letting them live another day and for only slapping their useless asses once in a while!

I love you already.

joelee
02-15-2010, 06:02 AM
The author sounds like a terrorist sympathizer to me
Shit happens on both sides, but people, WE KNOW first hand how the Arab mind works. The smiling at you while they walk up with a S vest on. I give the IDF the benifit of the doubt and agree with LegioX. Another Tango Lover...

Reactor-Axe-Man
02-15-2010, 01:01 PM
Shit, even if everything in that story is true, every last horror of it, what can you expect after sixty fucking years of living under siege by the Arab world, after four major wars and dozens of smaller conflicts, of getting told repeatedly that they are going to be pushed back into the sea - or, failing that, wiped out in a nuclear holocaust once Iran gets the Bomb?

I support Israel, flawed though it may be, over the Koranimals who surround it.

Hoot
02-16-2010, 09:34 AM
Israeli Women beating up Muslim men (and a few kids "who cares")cool you go girls..
go Israel