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Toki
11-09-2009, 10:25 PM
TOM HENNIGAN in São Paulo
VENEZUELAN PRESIDENT Hugo Chávez has told his country to prepare for a possible war with Colombia, as diplomatic and border tensions between the ideologically opposed Andean nations deteriorate to their lowest level in more than a year.

Mr Chávez used his weekly television show, Aló Presidente , to denounce an agreement between Colombia and the US that allows the US military to use seven bases in Colombia. Mr Chávez warned these could be used for an attack on Venezuela.

Ordering troops to the frontier, he said the army could not afford to waste a day and that “we must prepare ourselves for war and help the people prepare for war, because this is the responsibility of all”.

The Colombian and US governments insist the bases are only for use against drug traffickers within Colombia. But Mr Chávez has denounced the pact as part of a US plan to try to dominate a region that in recent years has moved out of its traditional Washington orbit under a new generation of left-wing leaders, of whom Mr Chávez is the most radical.

Supporting their claims about the bases agreement, the Venezuelans have cited a US air force document presented to the US Congress in May. It says one of the bases provides a “unique opportunity” for “conducting full-spectrum operations throughout South America”, which it describes as a “critical region” under constant threat from “anti-US governments”.

On his television programme, Mr Chávez said that “the government of Colombia is not in Bogotá, now it is in Washington”, and warned US president Barack Obama that any US intervention launched from Colombia would spark a “100 years’ war”.

Colombia said it would raise Mr Chávez’s comments with the UN Security Council and the Organisation of American States.

Last year Mr Chávez ordered troops to the frontier live on Aló Presidente following Colombia’s bombing of a rebel guerrilla base hidden on the Ecuador side of the two countries’ border.

This latest round of tensions started with the signing of the bases agreement at the end of last month, and deteriorated last week when Venezuela said Colombian right-wing paramilitaries were responsible for killing two Venezuelan soldiers on its territory.

Colombian rebels and paramilitaries operate right along the border with Venezuela. Leading political allies of Colombian president Álvaro Uribe face investigations into their alleged links with the country’s paramilitaries.

Colombia, meanwhile, accuses Mr Chávez of providing covert support to the Farc guerrilla group.

In recent years Venezuela has embarked on an arms buying spree which it says is necessary to offset strategically the US-bankrolled military in Colombia.

Colombia is the fifth-biggest recipient of US military aid after Iraq, Afghanistan, Israel and Egypt.

Colombia’s army is double the size of Venezuela’s and battle-hardened after decades fighting left-wing guerrillas in the continent’s most protracted insurgency.

Economic mismanagement means that Venezuela is heavily dependent on Colombian food imports despite its own vast tracts of rich tropical farmland.

Despite a decade of increasingly hostile relations, Venezuelan imports of Colombian foodstuffs have ballooned, accounting for most of the $7.2 billion (€4.8 billion) in bilateral trade between the two countries last year.

Link. (http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2009/1110/1224258479545.html)

I'm sorry Mr. Chavez, be prepared to have your ass handed to you. If we wanted to attack you we wouldn't need a base for a “unique opportunity” for “conducting full-spectrum operations throughout South America”. We'd just call B-1s, B-2s, and B-52s to drop some JDAMs on your crazy ass. Go suck off Casto's decomposing cock.

ghost
11-09-2009, 10:30 PM
How serious could this be? Sounds like saber rattling from a tin pot dictator.

Toki
11-09-2009, 10:49 PM
How serious could this be? Sounds like saber rattling from a tin pot dictator.

Venezuela's economy is severely collapsing. They're rationing water, food, and several other things. What does this sound like? The only thing to do is blame it on your neighbor and attack them.

ghost
11-09-2009, 11:15 PM
Venezuela's economy is severely collapsing. They're rationing water, food, and several other things. What does this sound like? The only thing to do is blame it on your neighbor and attack them.


I suppose this is true.

If war does break out, it will definitely be a hard fight. Although, the Venezuelans would definitely have the upper hand in the air. They have the SU-30MK2. Definitely superior to the Colombian air force's Mirage5 and Israeli built Kfir. This only holds true if their training is up to par. The plane is only as good as it's pilot.

The Colombians, on the other hand, have quite a large ground force with extensive experience.

Now, the US could help. But I don't know how likely it is, considering how long it took for Obama to come to a conclusion on troops in Afghanistan...

acf6
11-09-2009, 11:22 PM
Chavez is the idiot that causes all the problems not Columbia or the US. The US has been in this region for yrs battling the Drug czars and now its a problem? No it just Chavez blowing smoke. If he does try it it might go good for him for a few days but then bye bye!

ghost
11-10-2009, 12:29 AM
Hmm. I feel like there's quite a large market for PMCs in this area, right now.

GTFPDQ
11-10-2009, 12:49 AM
Guy is a knobber. He is doing this to act big for the poor in his country. He will talk of saving Venezuela from aggression and he will get acclaim from the poor. He gets to be big man again and all is well.

If he doesnt sabre rattle now and then, how can he continue to spend big on arms... No threat, no arms.


PS. I had written a really good but short op-ed bit on this but the site kicked me off. GTFPDQ pissed.......really!!!!!

nastyleg
11-10-2009, 02:09 AM
Saber rattling. pure and simple.

Reactor-Axe-Man
11-11-2009, 12:22 AM
It never ceases to amaze me about how fast a country with a great wealth of natural resources becomes impoverished so quickly the moment they put a strong man in power regardless of ideology. Socialist strong men just accomplish collapse even faster.