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bobdina
10-30-2009, 09:56 AM
Adm. concerned about China military buildup

JEREMIAH MARQUEZ - The Associated Press
Posted : Friday Oct 30, 2009 8:02:37 EDT

HONG KONG — A U.S. Navy admiral expressed new concern Friday over China’s military buildup and urged Beijing to be clearer about its intentions.

With China’s military growing at an “unprecedented rate” — spending was up almost 15 percent in the 2009 budget — the U.S. wants to ensure that expansion doesn’t destabilize the region, Rear Adm. Kevin Donegan told reporters on a visit to the Chinese territory of Hong Kong.

“When we see a military growing at that rate, we’re interested in transparency and the understanding of the uses of that military,” said Donegan, commander of the George Washington aircraft carrier strike group, a key part of the U.S. Pacific Fleet.

Donegan’s comments come as a top Chinese general visits the United States on a mission to strengthen trust between the two militaries and dispel U.S. concerns about the growth of the People’s Liberation Army.

Xu Caihou, the PLA’s second-highest ranking officer, told President Barack Obama on Wednesday that ties between the two countries’ militaries play “an important role in enhancing strategic mutual trust and deepening their pragmatic cooperation,” according to Chinese media reports.

Donegan’s remarks echo the concerns of other U.S. military leaders who say fast growth in China’s military spending raises questions as to how Beijing plans on deploying its new power.

China has boosted spending by more than 10 percent annually for almost two decades, and the official figure of $71 billion this year is thought by many analysts to represent only a portion of total defense spending. It still amounts to only a fraction of U.S. defense spending.

China says much of the increase is used to improve salaries and living conditions for soldiers, but it has also been adding sophisticated new warships, submarines, fighter jets and other weapons systems to its arsenal. PLA leaders have also said they are considering building an aircraft carrier, but such a development is thought to be years, if not decades, away.

Donegan acknowledged the possibility of a Chinese aircraft carrier, but also said he was concerned with anti-access weapons. This class of weapons includes missiles and submarines that can threaten U.S. forces in the region and prevent them responding in the event of a crisis.

“I am absolutely concerned,” Donegan said.

He went on to say, “When a navy is doing that, we just want to make sure it’s transparent enough so those in the region understand what they’re doing.”

Ties between the two militaries have been repeatedly roiled by China’s objections to U.S. arms sales to Taiwan, claimed by Beijing as its own territory, as well as Chinese efforts to disrupt Navy surveillance missions off its shores.

A series of confrontations involving vessels from the two navies has raised concerns over China’s rising determination to defend what it sees as its territorial interests in the South China Sea, where the U.S. has long operated as the major international power.

Donegan said the Navy would continue to operate in international waters — something that could come in defiance of Beijing’s claims it has the right to bar surveillance work inside its exclusive economic zone.

“We are going to continue to operate in the South China Sea and international waters and not in territorial seas of another country,” he said.

The George Washington, considered the crown jewel of the U.S. Pacific Fleet, is currently visiting Hong Kong for the first time in its 17-year history.

Associated Press writer Christopher Bodeen contributed to this report from Beijing.

bobdina
10-30-2009, 10:33 AM
one day I read relations are warming up and there is nothing to be worried about with China then I read an Admiral is worried about there buildup , I for one(like I really matter) don't trust the Chinese as far as I can throw a Chinese Restaurant, dogs excluded.

ghost
10-30-2009, 10:57 AM
one day I read relations are warming up and there is nothing to be worried about with China then I read an Admiral is worried about there buildup , I for one(like I really matter) don't trust the Chinese as far as I can throw a Chinese Restaurant, dogs excluded.


Gee thanks! I happen to be Chinese. LOL. Half, actually.

It's alright, though. ;) I wouldn't trust them anymore than you do.

Reactor-Axe-Man
10-31-2009, 02:42 AM
China's been the Navy's concern since the collapse of the Soviet Union, and I have the old copies of Naval Institute Proceedings to prove it. Unfortunately, the Navy has been a voice in the wilderness, unheard and unheeded. They were projecting a SHTF moment where the Chinese had regional sea-power dominance by 2015 back in 1995, and I have seen nothing so far to think that this won't come about roughly on schedule. Their only setbacks so far has been in adapting that Ukrainian carrier, Varyag, that they acquired, and the deployment of new made SSNs and replacement of their almost useless Yankee class SSBN. These are merely delays to the timeline, however, not actual failures.

The concern is simple - a massive amount of the world's trade is conducted through waters that a strong PLA(N) could easily interdict, and a capable Navy is their last stumbling block towards any plan to bring Taiwan to heel.

ghost
11-01-2009, 12:37 AM
China's been the Navy's concern since the collapse of the Soviet Union, and I have the old copies of Naval Institute Proceedings to prove it. Unfortunately, the Navy has been a voice in the wilderness, unheard and unheeded. They were projecting a SHTF moment where the Chinese had regional sea-power dominance by 2015 back in 1995, and I have seen nothing so far to think that this won't come about roughly on schedule. Their only setbacks so far has been in adapting that Ukrainian carrier, Varyag, that they acquired, and the deployment of new made SSNs and replacement of their almost useless Yankee class SSBN. These are merely delays to the timeline, however, not actual failures.

The concern is simple - a massive amount of the world's trade is conducted through waters that a strong PLA(N) could easily interdict, and a capable Navy is their last stumbling block towards any plan to bring Taiwan to heel.


Duly noted. What about force projection and logistics, though?

Toki
11-01-2009, 08:22 AM
Roosevelt wanted the US, UK, Soviet-Union, and China to emerge as super powers after WW II. I guess China was late to the party.