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nastyleg
09-29-2009, 05:35 PM
Controversy over ornaments for Capitol tree

by Jeremy Foster/KTAR (September 29th, 2009 @ 1:04pm)


PHOENIX -- A controversy's brewing over ornaments made by school children for the U.S. Capitol Christmas tree which this year is from Arizona's White Mountains.

The Obama Administration has decided the ornaments cannot reflect a religious or political theme, said Jonathan Scruggs of the Alliance Defense Fund.

He has sent a letter to federal and state leaders, including Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer, protesting the ban on religious and political themes.

"You can't come out and ban religious viewpoints. If the ornament addresses the theme of Arizona and does it from a religious perspective, then that is permissible under the First Amendment," Scruggs said.

Christmas is, after all, a religious holiday, said Scruggs.

"The message is to say 'Happy Birthday, Jesus,' or `Merry Christmas.'"

Arizona's state motto alone could be a violation of the ban, Scruggs said, saying the motto essentially means "God enriches."

Scruggs said, "Christian speech isn't second-class speech. Just because an ornament addresses a religious theme or a Christian theme doesn't mean you can ban it just for that reason."

Plus, he said, the ban violates First Amendment rights under the Constitution.

http://www.ktar.com/?nid=6&sid=1215013

nastyleg
09-29-2009, 05:36 PM
Posted this NOT because of the religious tone but that of the legality of Obama's policy regaurding my states first amendment rights.

bobdina
09-29-2009, 06:50 PM
This shit is getting way out of hand . Soon they will ban all Christmas carols that have any sort of religious words in it.

acf6
09-29-2009, 07:40 PM
Yea your suppose to say "happy holidays" now not Merry Christmas! They can kiss my ass I say Merry Christmas every time and if they don't like it TUFF!!

GTFPDQ
09-29-2009, 11:04 PM
Is Obama reading from the European Union rulebook? Seems to be more and more socialist type rules being made.

You will soon have Grayhound passengers getting off buses after 30 miles and then getting back on.

And watch out for misshapen fruit and veg... real trouble.

nastyleg
09-29-2009, 11:06 PM
Is Obama reading from the European Union rulebook? Seems to be more and more socialist type rules being made.

You will soon have Grayhound passengers getting off buses after 30 miles and then getting back on.

And watch out for misshapen fruit and veg... real trouble.

Well he is associated with many, many socialists and Marxists through out his political career.

Reactor-Axe-Man
09-30-2009, 12:30 AM
Yeah... that whole "separation of church and state" thing... Show me in the Constitution where it says that. I'll wait.


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What's that? Can't seem to find it anywhere? Bummer, dude. Don't even go with the 1st Amendment either. That prohibits the establishment of a Church of the United States, and no more.


Want to know where it comes from? Thomas Jefferson says it in a private letter to a friend, and thereafter regrets having said it. Remember, this is the guy who wrote the Declaration of Independence, the very moral and ethical foundation of our nation and the Constitution that encodes it. You know, the one that talks about all of us being endowed by God with certain inalienable rights?

Yeah...


Fuck you, next question.

nastyleg
09-30-2009, 12:39 AM
This just in Christmas is a CHRISTIAN HOLIDAY!