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bobdina
09-29-2009, 05:17 PM
Israel Takes Delivery of 2 German-Built U212 Subs
AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE
Published: 29 Sep 2009 11:45

JERUSALEM - Israel has taken delivery of two German-built submarines, a military spokesman said Sept. 29.

"We have received two Dolphin-class submarines," he said on condition of anonymity.

The submarines, called U212s, can launch cruise missiles carrying nuclear warheads, although when it confirmed the sale in 2006 the German government said the two vessels were not equipped to carry nuclear weapons.

Delivery was initially expected in 2010.

Including the new subs, Israel has five German submarines - the most expensive weapon platforms in Israel's arsenal.

Germany, which believes it has a historic responsibility to help Israel because of the Holocaust, donated the first two submarines after the 1991 Gulf War. It split the cost of the third.

According to Jane's Defence Weekly, the U212s are designed for a crew of 35, have a range of 2,810 miles and can launch cruise missiles carrying nuclear warheads.

Israeli media have written that the Dolphin submarine could be key in any attack on Iran's controversial nuclear sites.

An Israeli submarine recently used the Suez Canal for the first time in June, escorted by Egyptian navy vessels, in what Israeli media said was intended as a message to Iran.

Widely considered the Middle East's sole, if undeclared, nuclear power, Israel suspects Iran of trying to develop atomic weapons under the guise of a civilian nuclear program, a charge Tehran denies.

nastyleg
09-29-2009, 05:23 PM
Well I would not blame them for taking it out like they did in the past.

Toki
09-29-2009, 06:27 PM
http://d.yimg.com/bg/p/090703/reuters/btre56219i600btre56219i600i46638120.jpg

Reactor-Axe-Man
09-30-2009, 12:05 AM
The Type-212 is well suited to Israel's needs. It's quiet, small (this is a big deal in depth restricted waters like the Persian Gulf), and packs a decent punch. I can't say for certain what Iran's ASW capability is like, but I'd hazard that it was not up to snuff.

I also love the irony of a German U-boat being Israel's best hope for survival.

ghost
09-30-2009, 09:08 PM
The Type-212 is well suited to Israel's needs. It's quiet, small (this is a big deal in depth restricted waters like the Persian Gulf), and packs a decent punch. I can't say for certain what Iran's ASW capability is like, but I'd hazard that it was not up to snuff.

I also love the irony of a German U-boat being Israel's best hope for survival.



Definitely those German diesel boats are good stuff.

GTFPDQ
09-30-2009, 11:06 PM
My fingernails are ragged from me chewing on them, will somebody just do something. Anything that Israel does will automatically be associated with an attack on Iran. Anything that Iran does will be associated with Israel and giving the bird to the world community.

Nuke the nuke sites when they are fully manned, kill a large percentage of the scientists and engineers that are working. Turn the areas into no-go areas for decades.

No troops involved, stand off weapons only.

golem
10-06-2009, 06:02 PM
Sorry, but those subs are powered by hybrid fuel cells.


YouTube - Type 212 non-nuclear U-Boat (Germany developed - Future Weapons s01e02) - HQ

bobdina
10-06-2009, 06:10 PM
Sorry, but those subs are powered by hybrid fuel cells.


YouTube - Type 212 non-nuclear U-Boat (Germany developed - Future Weapons s01e02) - HQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eUSmQxj_nE)

Who said anything about how they are powered?
Never mind I saw someone say they are diesel boats.

golem
10-07-2009, 11:43 AM
Who said anything about how they are powered?


Definitely those German diesel boats are good stuff.


The German Type 212 is a highly advanced design of non-nuclear submarine (U-Boat) developed by Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft AG (HDW) for the German Navy. It features diesel propulsion and an additional air-independent propulsion (AIP) system using Siemens proton exchange membrane (PEM) hydrogen fuel cells.

source :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_212_submarine

bobdina
10-07-2009, 12:11 PM
Hey don't beat me up. I said I saw the post and I'm sorry. just kidding, thanks for setting the record straight.