This is facts this is truth

[eaglethebeagle]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8Wd3zW30pI&feature=related


fuck all the bullshit lies and cover ups by obama this is truth from a family that knows the truth about what the hell is going on.

[nastyleg]

I would be lying if I said I have never felt the way they do.

[gazzthompson]

And this is truth, and this is fact:

http://www.politicususa.com/friend-family-slain-seal-its-making-sick-romney.html

Or are we going to ignore this one?

[HooterBro]

And this is truth, and this is fact:

http://www.politicususa.com/friend-family-slain-seal-its-making-sick-romney.html

Or are we going to ignore this one?

Typically, I listen to/read anything from Foxnews, CNN, MSNBC, and other news outlets, with a very guarded mind. However, your linking to a politicususa.com article is, unfortunately, laughable at best. Typical liberal response you've got there. The video in the OP is showing two parents being upset about their son being killed in Benghazi. The topic isn't about the President using some dead SEAL's for political gain, but that's what you come back with? Just trying to shift the focus aren't you?

I firmly believe that Romney should of obtained the blessings of that guys family before mentioning him in his speeches. That's a bit of tastelessness is it not?

Let's talk about that then.

What about Obama sending FORM LETTERS (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/08/obama-honored-fallen-seals-by-sending-their-parents-a-form-letter-signed-by-electric-pen/) to the Navy Seals killed in that helicopter crash signed by electric pen? But he sure didn't mind sending a personal letter of condolence to a rapper. (http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/heavy-ds-funeral-obama-sends-letter-condolence/story?id=14984753#.UD9eBchOZio)

Also, what about Obama using the raid that killed Bin Laden (http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/16/politics/former-seals-obama/index.html) as a political tool, repeatedly saying that HE, Obama, was responsible for the death of Bin Laden when in all actuality, he had very little to do with it?

Obama also completely mishandled Benghazi and claimed it was an Anti-Islam film that caused all the attacks at our Embassies, leading to the deaths of four American's and a lot of expensive damages. His stupid ass brought that video to light for the whole of the Muslim world and while I firmly believe that these attacks were coordinated terrorist events, the frikkin POTUS made everything one HELL of a lot worse by using that stupid video as an "Ignition point" for the attacks.

It just amazes me the amount of Kool-Aid you Libs drink.

[eaglethebeagle]

Romney upset the parents of a deceased SEAL without getting permission to mention their son for his speeches. obama is directly responsible for the deaths of two SEALs the ambassador and another member of the American embassy. obama spikes the football on bin laden then lies and tries to cover up his Benghazi debacle.

There is no comparison in these two gaffes. Romney is without a doubt more intelligent and competent to lead our military and nation after obama and his ineptness and empty chair politics.

[gazzthompson]

Typically, I listen to/read anything from Foxnews, CNN, MSNBC, and other news outlets, with a very guarded mind. However, your linking to a politicususa.com article is, unfortunately, laughable at best. Typical liberal response you've got there. The video in the OP is showing two parents being upset about their son being killed in Benghazi. The topic isn't about the President using some dead SEAL's for political gain, but that's what you come back with? Just trying to shift the focus aren't you?

I firmly believe that Romney should of obtained the blessings of that guys family before mentioning him in his speeches. That's a bit of tastelessness is it not?

Let's talk about that then.

What about Obama sending FORM LETTERS (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/08/obama-honored-fallen-seals-by-sending-their-parents-a-form-letter-signed-by-electric-pen/) to the Navy Seals killed in that helicopter crash signed by electric pen? But he sure didn't mind sending a personal letter of condolence to a rapper. (http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/heavy-ds-funeral-obama-sends-letter-condolence/story?id=14984753#.UD9eBchOZio)

Also, what about Obama using the raid that killed Bin Laden (http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/16/politics/former-seals-obama/index.html) as a political tool, repeatedly saying that HE, Obama, was responsible for the death of Bin Laden when in all actuality, he had very little to do with it?

Obama also completely mishandled Benghazi and claimed it was an Anti-Islam film that caused all the attacks at our Embassies, leading to the deaths of four American's and a lot of expensive damages. His stupid ass brought that video to light for the whole of the Muslim world and while I firmly believe that these attacks were coordinated terrorist events, the frikkin POTUS made everything one HELL of a lot worse by using that stupid video as an "Ignition point" for the attacks.

It just amazes me the amount of Kool-Aid you Libs drink.

Okay where to start:

1. It was the first link I came across as it was posted all over the net, But fair enough so here's another link:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19905786

2. Form letters electric pen? The signatures don't even look the same, Look at the "O"

3. Obama said he was responsible? Every video ive ever seen he thanked the seals and the troops. Care to link?

4. I haven't kept up to date Benghazi so cant really comment.


obama is directly responsible for the deaths of two SEALs the ambassador and another member of the American embassy. .

i would love to see you explain this one.

[eaglethebeagle]

Okay where to start:

1. It was the first link I came across as it was posted all over the net, But fair enough so here's another link:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19905786

2. Form letters electric pen? The signatures don't even look the same, Look at the "O"

3. Obama said he was responsible? Every video ive ever seen he thanked the seals and the troops. Care to link?

4. I haven't kept up to date Benghazi so cant really comment.



i would love to see you explain this one.



WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama assumed responsibility Tuesday for the deadly terror attack in Libya last month that killed four Americans just hours after Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton sought to shoulder the blame for any mistakes the administration made.


http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2012/10/17/after-clinton-obama-takes-benghazi-responsibility/nvtwkKf36XLfABrgDMEqEO/story.html


there you go that was easy.

[eaglethebeagle]

Okay where to start:

1. It was the first link I came across as it was posted all over the net, But fair enough so here's another link:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19905786

2. Form letters electric pen? The signatures don't even look the same, Look at the "O"

3. Obama said he was responsible? Every video ive ever seen he thanked the seals and the troops. Care to link?

4. I haven't kept up to date Benghazi so cant really comment.
http://www.apacheclips.com/boards/images/styles/lifeElement/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by eaglethebeagle http://www.apacheclips.com/boards/images/styles/lifeElement/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.apacheclips.com/boards/showthread.php?p=65212#post65212)
obama is directly responsible for the deaths of two SEALs the ambassador and another member of the American embassy. .



i would love to see you explain this one.



now what genius ? He skips his intel briefings like a college freshman binge drinker skips first period calculus class and we are suppose to accept him as commander in chief? Fuck that. He really needs to drive in a convertible down Dealey plaza if he has any courage.

[SgtJim]

ROE is a piece of shit
everybody knows it
and everybody shitting on it when they can, and everybody closing down their eyes&ears
otherways there'll be too many casualties....

otherway it is really sad&disgusting to use a Soldier/Marine/SEAL ultimate sacrifice for political campaigns or any political things

[HooterBro]

It's kinda telling that you did not address ANY of the linked information I gave you about Obama.

In SOCOM, we had a saying. "If you gonna come to the dance, ya better have your dancing shoes on! Because we ARE gonna dance!"

Also, "Pie the damned corner numb-nuts!! You make yourself look stupid, or dead, when you round a building with no pie!"

That means, Gazz, that if you want to make an issue out of this conversation, you better come prepared. Your nearly extremist, left-wing belief system will quickly pale and become translucent if you can't think for yourself.

As to your first point, all you did was say, "Fair enough", acknowledging, I assume, that your first post had absolutely NOTHING WHAT SO EVER to do with the originally posted topic. So what do you do? Smoke and mirrors. You come back with a different website, but the same content. Since your attention span seems pretty short, I'll remind you of what the original post was about. It was about the FACT that due to Obama's nescient and embarrassing foreign policy, duly carried out by Hillary Clinton, we lost four American's who were BEGGING for more protection. Those two parents lost their SON. This is NOT about your weak ass argument that compares the loss of someones son due to the ineptitude displayed on a regular basis by this POTUS to your link, which is about Romney dropping names and using the death of a SEAL in his political agenda. I've used a lot of words here and, some of them are big. So if I need to further clarify this for you, just let me know.

Your second point. Exactly.

Your third point:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsrSAqRrCc0

Shall we also discuss the TREMENDOUS amount of sensitive information leaked by this administration about our SOCOM operators and how they conduct their missions?

Your fourth point. Your ignorance of this matter is unforgivable. Anyone spouting off about how one man is better than the other in a Presidential race had best be up to date on everything he or she can lay their eyes and ears on.

:drillsergeant::drillsergeant::drillsergeant:





Okay where to start:

1. It was the first link I came across as it was posted all over the net, But fair enough so here's another link:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19905786

2. Form letters electric pen? The signatures don't even look the same, Look at the "O"

3. Obama said he was responsible? Every video ive ever seen he thanked the seals and the troops. Care to link?

4. I haven't kept up to date Benghazi so cant really comment.



i would love to see you explain this one.

[gazzthompson]

You seem to be repeating the same right wing echo chamber comments I read on fox and co I read when I get bored and decide to get an insight into the conservative mind, you also included the infamous video. Classic. I could attempt a reply but let's be honest here, nobody is going to change their view. I will say this however, if your not voting Obama because of this but will vote for a guy who jumped at the chance to use dead Americans for his own gain.. well good luck with that.

[HooterBro]

You seem to be repeating the same right wing echo chamber comments I read on fox and co I read when I get bored and decide to get an insight into the conservative mind, you also included the infamous video. Classic. I could attempt a reply but let's be honest here, nobody is going to change their view. I will say this however, if your not voting Obama because of this but will vote for a guy who jumped at the chance to use dead Americans for his own gain.. well good luck with that.

Fauxnews? No thanks. I read ALOT of difference news outlets, and while I do tend to keep track of Fox and CNN more often than others, it's simply due to the fact that in between all the bullshit they both put out, there is a truth in the middle. It's up to each individual American to discern what that truth is. Then, depending on our belief systems, filter it through our mind and give an opinion.

I think I'd rather vote for a Mormon who exercised some bad taste, but then apologized for it and stopped, than a fucking Muslim piece of shit that HATES America.

Trust me, I have a couple of people in mind that I would MUCH rather see as POTUS than either of these two asshats. But since this is what we have, I intend to do everything I can to wake people the fuck up and help them understand how utterly damaging to America Obama has been. If given another four years where he will know he can't be elected again, that man would align us with the U.N.'s one world gov't mission (http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/263141-international-monitors-at-polling-places-draw-criticism-from-voter-fraud-group), continue to apologize to extremists, continue to bow when meeting foreign dignitaries, continue to further alienate us from Israel, continue to further transform this Nation into a true Socialist State with extreme Liberal underpinnings and finally, finish destroying America's GDP to debt ratio so that we are economically splattered like Greece.

At least I KNOW Romney loves this country and will do everything he can with his vast business experience to fix the National Debt. I believe his foreign policies will bring America BACK onto the world stage as a bastion of freedom and strength. Obama has done so much to hurt, damage, downgrade and belittle our Constitution and he does everything he can to get around our Constitution and Bill of Rights. The man thinks the Constitution is a flawed document. But that "flawed document" built what used to be the most powerful Nation the Earth has ever seen. A Nation that isn't out to take over everything and everyone, but to force dictators and communists to free their people.

What a sad, sad day it is when people don't even know or, don't care, when a sitting POTUS obviously detests our Constitution so much that he creates Executive Orders to get around it. Even when he is quoted as saying that using those powers to circumvent our Constitution would be illegal.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9isifcg9ik

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_xNyrzB0xI

[Sixx]

Give it up Gazz :)
You are getting spanked.


HooterBro know his shit.

[gazzthompson]

Give it up Gazz :)
You are getting spanked.


HooterBro know his shit.


He does know his shit, I agree with his news comment.. The rest not so much, But as I said I don't feel any response will change any minds and will be a big waste of effort.

HooterBro I disagree with what your saying , mostly , But you comment good (better than eagle thats for sure) and I cant be fucked to put the effort in to reply fully, I shouldn't have commented in the first place as arguing on this website has killed my willingness to argue.

Oh and for the record, As a "nearly extremist, left-wing " I would vote for Gary Johnson (even though I disagree with his healthcare views).

[eaglethebeagle]

Give it up Gazz :)
You are getting spanked.


HooterBro know his shit.



LOL at this point Sixx I think we all know gazz comes here to get his ass spanked it is an almost daily occurrence he must like it.

[mrfrosty]

I can't wait until the Election is over, then the Pit might finally be free of Political Propaganda.

when it comes to the tragedy in Libya i love how Brandon Webb puts it. (SOFREP really tries to be apolitical)
as a SEAL he has actually protected embassies before and adds some much needed perspective that is missing from all the news articles and crap shows.

AND HE WAS A FRIEND OF GLEN AND TY.
Start at 5:00
http://sofrep.com/12380/the-bipartisan-american-hero/

[eaglethebeagle]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=A3ldyGsZ1Io#!


another pissed off parent.

[eaglethebeagle]

http://soundcloud.com/thelarslarsonshow/charles-woods-father-of-former


LarsLarson show
Today I got a call, out of the blue, from the father of one of the Americans who was murdered in Benghazi, Libya
Charles Woods explained that he never calls talk shows, but was upset over news he had heard and just decided to call me.
He talked about his son, Tyrone Woods, who was killed along with Ambassador Chris Stevens and two other Americans who were trying to save the life of the Amb

[eaglethebeagle]

http://patdollard.com/2012/10/russia-syrian-rebels-who-may-be-al-qaeda-have-u-s-stinger-missiles/

[eaglethebeagle]

Father of Slain SEAL: Who Made the Decision Not to Save My Son?

Charles Woods, the father of Tyrone Woods, who was killed in the 9/11 terrorist attack at the American consulate in Benghazi, Libya, reveals details of meeting Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton at the publically broadcast memorial service for the slain Americans at Andrews Air Force Base only days after the attack. And, in a recent radio appearance, Woods publicly questions who made the call not to send in back-up forces to possibly save his son’s life, as well as the three other Americans killed in Benghazi (which includes the American ambassador to Libya).

“When [Obama] came over to our little area” at Andrew Air Force Base, says Woods, “he kind of just mumbled, you know, ‘I’m sorry.’ His face was looking at me, but his eyes were looking over my shoulder like he could not look me in the eye. And it was not a sincere, ‘I’m really sorry, you know, that your son died,’ but it was totally insincere, more of whining type, ‘I’m sorry.’”

Woods says that shaking President Obama’s hands at his son’s memorial service was “like shaking hands with a dead fish.”

“It just didn’t feel right,” he says of his encounter with the commander in chief. “And now that it’s coming out that apparently the White House situation room was watching our people die in real time, as this was happening,” Woods says, he wants answers on what happened—and why there was no apparent effort to save his son’s life.

“Well, this is what Hillary did,” Woods continues. “She came over and, you know, did the same thing—separately came over and talked with me. I gave her a hug, shook her hand. And she did not appear to be one bit sincere—at all. And you know, she mentioned that the thing about, we’re going to have that person arrested and prosecuted that did the video. That was the first time I had even heard about anything like that.”

Woods continues: “Apparently even the State Department had a live stream and was aware of their calls for help. My son wasn’t even there. He was at a safe house about a mile away. He got the distress call; he heard them crying for help; that’s why he and Glen risked their lives to go that extra mile just to take care of the situation. And I’m sure that wasn’t the only one received that distress call—you know, come save our lives … I’m sure that other people in the military, in the State Department, in the White House, received that same call that he would receive. And I’m sure that most military people would jump at the chance … to protect that life [and] not leave anyone behind.”

Woods made clear that he isn't "mad," but that he wants to the "truth" to be told because he feels " abandoned."

Woods says he was told by military officials that the military could have "come above [the area] and completely carpeted area," and therefore saved the officials in Benghazi, Libya. But that someone gave the command for the American military not to save the lives of the Americans under attack.

"When I heard, you know, that there's a very good chance that the White House as well as other members of the military knew what was going on and obviously someone had to say, don't go rescue them. Because every person in the military--their first response [would be], we're going to go rescue them. We need to find out who it was that gave that command--do not rescue them."

[SATX]

Hillary may now be 'lawerying up' over this whole sad affair.

http://www.conservativedailynews.com/2012/10/bill-clinton-told-hillary-to-resign-us-arming-syrian-rebels-with-ties-to-al-queda-muslim-brotherhood/

[eaglethebeagle]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/26/cia-operators-were-denied-request-for-help-during-benghazi-attack-sources-say/



Hung out to dry hillary and obamo couldnt be bothered with this they needed to get their sleep and continue on the campaign trail.


Fox News has learned from sources who were on the ground in Benghazi that an urgent request from the CIA annex for military back-up during the attack on the U.S. Consulate and subsequent attack several hours later was denied by U.S. officials -- who also told the CIA operators twice to "stand down" rather than help the ambassador's team when shots were heard at approximately 9:40 p.m. in Benghazi on Sept. 11.
Former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods was part of a small team who was at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. Consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack. When he and others heard the shots fired, they informed their higher-ups at the annex to tell them what they were hearing and requested permission to go to the consulate and help out. They were told to "stand down," according to sources familiar with the exchange. Soon after, they were again told to "stand down."
Woods and at least two others ignored those orders and made their way to the Consulate which at that point was on fire. Shots were exchanged. The quick reaction force from the CIA annex evacuated those who remained at the Consulate and Sean Smith, who had been killed in the initial attack. They could not find the ambassador and returned to the CIA annex at about midnight.
At that point, they called again for military support and help because they were taking fire at the CIA safe house, or annex. The request was denied. There were no communications problems at the annex, according those present at the compound. The team was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. In fact, at least one member of the team was on the roof of the annex manning a heavy machine gun when mortars were fired at the CIA compound. The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support from a Specter gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights. The fighting at the CIA annex went on for more than four hours -- enough time for any planes based in Sigonella Air base, just 480 miles away, to arrive. Fox News has also learned that two separate Tier One Special operations forces were told to wait, among them Delta Force operators.
Watch "Special Report Investigates: Death and Deceit in Benghazi" on Fox News at 1 p.m. ET on Saturday, 3 p.m. on Sunday and 10 p.m. on Sunday.
A Special Operations team, or CIF which stands for Commanders in Extremis Force, operating in Central Europe had been moved to Sigonella, Italy, but they too were told to stand down. A second force that specializes in counterterrorism rescues was on hand at Sigonella, according to senior military and intelligence sources. According to those sources, they could have flown to Benghazi in less than two hours. They were the same distance to Benghazi as those that were sent from Tripoli. Specter gunships are commonly used by the Special Operations community to provide close air support.
According to sources on the ground during the attack, the special operator on the roof of the CIA annex had visual contact and a laser pointing at the Libyan mortar team that was targeting the CIA annex. The operators were calling in coordinates of where the Libyan forces were firing from.
Defense Secretary Leon Panetta told reporters at the Pentagon on Thursday that there was not a clear enough picture of what was occurring on the ground in Benghazi to send help.
"There's a lot of Monday morning quarterbacking going on here," Panetta said Thursday. "But the basic principle here ... is that you don't deploy forces into harm's way without knowing what's going on."
U.S. officials argue that there was a period of several hours when the fighting stopped before the mortars were fired at the annex, leading officials to believe the attack was over.
Fox News has learned that there were two military surveillance drones redirected to Benghazi shortly after the attack on the Consulate began. They were already in the vicinity. The second surveillance craft was sent to relieve the first drone, perhaps due to fuel issues. Both were capable of sending real time visuals back to U.S. officials in Washington, D.C. Any U.S. official or agency with the proper clearance, including the White House Situation Room, State Department, CIA, Pentagon and others, could call up that video in real time on their computers.
Tyrone Woods was later joined at the scene by fellow former Navy SEAL Glen Doherty, who was sent in from Tripoli as part of a Global Response Staff or GRS that provides security to CIA case officers and provides countersurveillance and surveillance protection. They were killed by a mortar shell at 4 a.m. Libyan time, nearly seven hours after the attack on the Consulate began -- a window that represented more than enough time for the U.S. military to send back-up from nearby bases in Europe, according to sources familiar with Special Operations. Four mortars were fired at the annex. The first one struck outside the annex. Three more hit the annex.
A motorcade of dozens of Libyan vehicles, some mounted with 50 caliber machine guns, belonging to the February 17th Brigades, a Libyan militia which is friendly to the U.S., finally showed up at the CIA annex at approximately 3 a.m. An American Quick Reaction Force sent from Tripoli had arrived at the Benghazi airport at 2 a.m. (four hours after the initial attack on the Consulate) and was delayed for 45 minutes at the airport because they could not at first get transportation, allegedly due to confusion among Libyan militias who were supposed to escort them to the annex, according to Benghazi sources.
The American special operators, Woods, Doherty and at least two others were part of the Global Response Staff, a CIA element, based at the CIA annex and were protecting CIA operators who were part of a mission to track and repurchase arms in Benghazi that had proliferated in the wake of Muammar Qaddafi's fall. Part of their mission was to find the more than 20,000 missing MANPADS, or shoulder-held missiles capable of bringing down a commercial aircraft. According to a source on the ground at the time of the attack, the team inside the CIA annex had captured three Libyan attackers and was forced to hand them over to the Libyans. U.S. officials do not know what happened to those three attackers and whether they were released by the Libyan forces.
Fox News has also learned that Stevens was in Benghazi that day to be present at the opening of an English-language school being started by the Libyan farmer who helped save an American pilot who had been shot down by pro-Qaddafi forces during the initial war to overthrow the regime. That farmer saved the life of the American pilot and the Ambassador wanted to be present to launch the Libyan rescuer's new school.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/26/cia-operators-were-denied-request-for-help-during-benghazi-attack-sources-say/#ixzz2AQJPy5Oh