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MadeInRu
09-21-2012, 02:20 PM
A question to all Apache members!

You all blame Obama, I understand. But let's give us all some insight on the things you want to improve, things that you think are totally wrong.

Just give us an example about things he does wrong, and give us an example of how it could be done better.

I'm very interested, not if Obama is bad or good, but rather if there is a better solution to some problems.

MIR

P.S. - Give your version of what he did wrong and give an alternative.

BrendenF11
09-21-2012, 03:59 PM
Repeal every single piece of legislation in regards to the Patriot act and all NDAA acts. There is no need for them, other than extreme government power. Safety means being free not, "safe" under the eyes of an ever watchful governement.

eaglethebeagle
09-21-2012, 10:38 PM
America

What do you think of when you here America?

freedom

liberty

the right to pursue happiness.


The Statue of liberty

obamacare is socialized healthcare and it has been bankrupting greece, spain, france etc. Not to mention that your government tells you when you get your healthcare and now knows your most private information. Fuck that. That is not freedom or liberty it is control and oppression.

Repeal the NDAA and patriot acts like Brenden said its false security and more government control and violation of privacy.


Close the FED blow it up its wrong to have that much control of banking in one system.


Here is my idea on federal taxation....Stop all income taxation. Yes end all federal income taxation. Instead of taxing all legal citizens and then forcing us to pay for the governments choice of entitlements and supporting illegals etc. The proper system of taxation would be a federal retail tax. Tax all retail business and services. This method will be equal to all with no discrimination to who you are rich or poor. Then in addition you also are collecting federal tax on illegals and criminals who are forced to pay the retail tax when they buy goods and services.

Then you are now taxing the illegals and criminals who have evaded taxation entirely before. You are getting tax revenue fairly and from those who evaded it before. The people who make more money and buy more goods and services pay more tax on all their retail and services bought. The poor are taxed less because they buy less goods and services. Then everyone keeps all their earned income and so if you are a cheap ass and dont spend your money on ipods and bullshit then you are more wealthy for not having to pay much in taxes. The big spenders pay more taxes.

The fact that people would have 15 to 30 % more money because of no taxes on income would lead to more spending on things that would help the economy grow and prosper.


That is my taxation idea I have it submitted to the U.S. patent office so you can not use it without my expressed written consent.

goinloco1
09-21-2012, 11:27 PM
little late there hot shot. some states have never had an income tax, but use a sales tax.

gazzthompson
09-22-2012, 09:35 AM
obamacare is socialized healthcare

hahahahahah , I would love to see how forcing people to buy off private companies is in anyway shape or form socialism eagle. Hell seems like a capitalists dream, still relies on the private sector to control the health market, not a single payer system, or even a government insurance option. He is a socialist when you take socialism to mean any policy not sufficiently right-wing. Because that's how it seems to be used, hilarious.


And it has been bankrupting greece, spain, france etc Not to mention that your government tells you when you get your healthcare.

Wrong.

MickDonalds
09-22-2012, 10:08 PM
hahahahahah , I would love to see how forcing people to buy off private companies is in anyway shape or form socialism eagle. Hell seems like a capitalists dream, still relies on the private sector to control the health market, not a single payer system, or even a government insurance option. He is a socialist when you take socialism to mean any policy not sufficiently right-wing. Because that's how it seems to be used, hilarious.

Well, we could all just be immigrants from North Africa, Pakistan and the Middle East seeking "asylum" in the Uk and not work. Oh and then have a bunch of kids and then they can sit around and collect the dole as well. We'll just tax the Brits that actually do work, and give them the same exact level of care and benefits as immigrants who've paid nothing towards the collective care of the nation.

Because that makes sense long term.

gazzthompson
09-23-2012, 08:06 AM
I'm okay with this, to an extent. That extent was exceeded and needs to be cut back mind you.