Video of Marines arrest

[eaglethebeagle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLpChd1-8Q4&feature=player_embedded#!




Freedom of speech ? Not anymore.

[eaglethebeagle]

http://www.facebook.com/raub.brandon?sk=wall



original fb page

http://www.facebook.com/brandon.raub?sk=wall


Brandon J Raub (http://www.facebook.com/brandon.raub)
This is the part where I tell the Federal Government to go fuck itself. This is the part where I tell Generals, training our young men to fight Americans, I am coming for you. The Veterans will be with me.

[mrfrosty]

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[Stark]

Yeah like the Fbeeeai has any interest in arresting some grunt that made random Facebook posts, there's a lot of stuff that we don't know

[mrfrosty]

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[eaglethebeagle]

Well I like that they come after some 22 year old Marine that has done absolutely nothing yet they ignore the Black Panthers that have stood at voting centers and intimidated voter as well as preach of killing little white babies. So there seems to be a little hypocrisy going on here. The kid sounds like he follows the Ron Paul faith. So why isnt Ron Paul being locked up?

[mrfrosty]

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[eaglethebeagle]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWaTSL2gtQs&feature=player_embedded

[eaglethebeagle]

theres a difference the Marine was professionally trained by the Military, and talked about a "Revolution" that was coming even if he had to do it himself.


and it sounds like your talking about the "New Black Panther Party" they're crazy and have been condemned by the older less crazy black panther party.
besides theres plenty of white supremacists who are just as crazy.



Dude your an idiot I am sorry I cant take you serious.

[BrendenF11]

theres a difference the Marine was professionally trained by the Military, and talked about a "Revolution" that was coming even if he had to do it himself.


and it sounds like your talking about the "New Black Panther Party" they're crazy and have been condemned by the older less crazy black panther party.
besides theres plenty of white supremacists who are just as crazy.

The white supremesists are pursued by the ACLU at every chance though. VERY rarely is the black panther party singled out, investigated, or restrained in their actions. The issue is the double standard by the ACLU and other similar groups.

I support their right to say whatever their want, but their actions are just as bad as the thing the hate. Never become your enemy, it makes you one and the same.


I think there is more to this case than just facebook posts, I mean I sure hope so otherwise it is a whole new ballgame. Call someone insane get them thrown in a nut house, throw away the key. No trial, no charges, no nothing. Hmmmm maybe that's why they loosed last years NDAA after the original draft, sounds like they've found a loop hole.

[mrfrosty]

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[Stark]

Well I like that they come after some 22 year old Marine that has done absolutely nothing yet they ignore the Black Panthers that have stood at voting centers and intimidated voter as well as preach of killing little white babies. So there seems to be a little hypocrisy going on here. The kid sounds like he follows the Ron Paul faith. So why isnt Ron Paul being locked up?

Your problemn beagle is that you assume a lot - you assume he has done nothing.

Listen...think...Why the hell would they even bother with some marine that likes to post on Above Security and leaves stupid tin hat wearing facebook comments on his wall, why would they even bother arresting him?
Unless...
Some of the stuff sounded SERIOUS enough and left them with serious doubt if this guy could actually do something, its called a pre-emtive strike, its not very democratic but in these days you've got to be careful what you say, a lot of people get all buthurt when you use the words like bombs and government and revolution in once sentence.
But that's the world we live in.

And seriously, who fucking cares about the black panthers - nobody gives a fuck about these obsolete guys since Rossie made a stand by refusing to sit in the bus backseat.

[eaglethebeagle]

Your problemn beagle is that you assume a lot - you assume he has done nothing.

Listen...think...Why the hell would they even bother with some marine that likes to post on Above Security and leaves stupid tin hat wearing facebook comments on his wall, why would they even bother arresting him?
Unless...
Some of the stuff sounded SERIOUS enough and left them with serious doubt if this guy could actually do something, its called a pre-emtive strike, its not very democratic but in these days you've got to be careful what you say, a lot of people get all buthurt when you use the words like bombs and government and revolution in once sentence.
But that's the world we live in.

And seriously, who fucking cares about the black panthers - nobody gives a fuck about these obsolete guys since Rossie made a stand by refusing to sit in the bus backseat.


First there has been to date no release of any other claims that he threatened or conspired to harm anyone... So that is all there is to consider right now. Its called facts and so you consider only facts when any crime or event takes place.

Facts here are that he has just made some Ron Paulish remarks on facebook and he felt he could call out the government and dare them to come get him. So the government came and got him.

If what he did so far is all it takes to get locked away or thrown in the loony toony house then you, me and half of apacheclips members will be getting knocks on our doors in the coming days.

[MadeInRu]

Beags, and guess what! Neither you or half of apache members will be getting locked... So it means there is more to this ball game then just this video!?

I mean, i'm fucking stunned! If there is one field where USSR failed is propaganda, US rights are way ahead.

How do you know what he did or didn't? You have any facts? Or just a video of him being arrested? Well, there is a good reason if it happened like that.

So, he's a US marine, should i remind you about the university? US Marine on the tower and pile of dead bodies?

Stop praising personal choice. How many US marines got arrested in such way in the last 10 years?

Your assuming part is getting old by now man. That video means shit.

Get some facts before making him a run away hero.

[eaglethebeagle]

Beags, and guess what! Neither you or half of apache members will be getting locked... So it means there is more to this ball game then just this video!?

I mean, i'm fucking stunned! If there is one field where USSR failed is propaganda, US rights are way ahead.

How do you know what he did or didn't? You have any facts? Or just a video of him being arrested? Well, there is a good reason if it happened like that.

So, he's a US marine, should i remind you about the university? US Marine on the tower and pile of dead bodies?

Stop praising personal choice. How many US marines got arrested in such way in the last 10 years?

Your assuming part is getting old by now man. That video means shit.

Get some facts before making him a run away hero.
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Suck my dick my nigga about assuming and facts and your commie talking shit out your mouth.


here is the facts that I was talking about right here so suck my balls and swallow the surprise.








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Former Marine Brandon Raub Sentenced To Up To 30 Days In Psych Ward Over Facebook PostsMichael Kelley (http://www.businessinsider.com/author/michael-kelley) | Aug. 20, 2012, 3:27 PM | 17,557 | 54 (http://www.businessinsider.com/former-marine-brandon-raub-is-being-held-in-a-psychiatric-ward-over-facebook-posts-about-911-2012-8#comments)





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Raub was taken into custody based on perceived mental illness.



The former Marine who was detained (http://www.businessinsider.com/brandon-raub-marine-911-detained-2012-8) in connection with Facebook (http://www.businessinsider.com/blackboard/facebook) posts critical of the government is being held in a psychiatric ward (http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/news/2012/aug/19/tdmet02-chesterfield-man-held-in-hospital-on-conce-ar-2140519/), Peter Bacqué of the Richmond Times-Dispatch reports. "I'm currently in John Randolph in the psychiatric ward being held against my will," Brandon Raub, 26, said in a telephone interview with the Times-Dispatch. "They were concerned about me calling for the arrest of government officials."
Raub accused the government of lying about 9/11 (http://www.businessinsider.com/brandon-raub-marine-911-detained-2012-8) and spoke of "starting a Revolution."

Lawyers from The Rutherford Institute represented Brandon Raub during the three-hour hearing today at the John Randolph Medical Center and released a statement (http://freedombroadcastingnetwork.com/former-us-marine-brandon-raub-to-remain-in-custody/), saying Raub has been sentenced to "up to 30 days’ further confinement in a VA psych ward" after "government officials againpointed to Raub’s Facebook posts (https://www.facebook.com/brandon.raub?sk=wall) as the sole reason for their concern and for his continued incarceration."
According to Raub's mother (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaE5zChbC5w&feature=player_embedded#!), authorities from the FBI, Secret Service and Chesterfield County PD came to their door on Thursday evening, questioned Raub about his Facebook posts, then handcuffed him and placed him in a Chesterfield PD squad car (http://www.businessinsider.com/brandon-raub-marine-911-detained-2012-8) before taking him to John Randolph Psychiatric Hospital in Hopewell, Va.
Both the FBI and Secret Service said Raub was not arrested or charged, but the Rutherford Institute statement points out that "if the police have put handcuffs on you and you’re being held against your will, that qualifies as an arrest."
When asked about why Raub was placed in a psychiatric ward, FBI Richmond spokeswoman told us that the FBI "had nothing to do with that" and that the FBI typically doesn't "make determinations such as that."
"We went out to interview him because of complaints that our office had received about people coming across his posts and perceiving them as threatening so our office along with Chesterfield County Police Department on Thursday," Rybiski told us. "When we left we had not arrested him, we had not placed our hands on him, we did not detain him and we did not charge him."
Secret Service spokesman Brian Leary said: "The Secret Service assisted the FBI with the interview. He was not arrested by the Secret Service. The Secret Service will continue to monitor the situation. We have no further comment at this time."
The Chesterfield PD – who had previously said the situation "was an FBI matter and we were just there to assist them" – released this statement (http://wtvr.com/2012/08/20/chesterfield-police-raub-resisted-officers-was-taken-for-evaluation/) (emphasis ours):
Chesterfield Police assisted federal authorities in their efforts to interview Brandon J. Raub on Thursday, Aug. 16. After speaking to Raub, officers believed him to be in need of further evaluation.
Chesterfield officers at the scene contacted Chesterfield Mental Health Crisis Intervention. Crisis workers recommended that police take Raub into custody and bring him in for evaluation.
Chesterfield police took Raub into custody for evaluation in accordance with Virginia State Code § 37.2-808 Emergency custody.
Raub was placed in handcuffs after he resisted officers’ attempts to take him into custody.
Raub was evaluated by a Chesterfield mental health official, who determined that he should be held under a temporary [detention] order and transported to John Randolph Medical Center for additional evaluation.
Raub was not arrested and he faces no criminal charges in Chesterfield.
The Virginia statute (http://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?000+cod+37.2-808) states that a mental health professional can decide to issue a temporary detention order if "it appears ... that the person (i) has a mental illness and that there exists a substantial likelihood that, as a result of mental illness, the person will, in the near future, (a) cause serious physical harm to himself or others as evidenced by recent behavior causing, attempting, or threatening harm and other relevant information, if any, or (b) suffer serious harm due to his lack of capacity to protect himself from harm or to provide for his basic human needs, (ii) is in need of hospitalization or treatment, and (iii) is unwilling to volunteer or incapable of volunteering for hospitalization or treatment."
It should be noted that the authority on whether or not Raub displayed signs of mental illness lies with the trained Chesterfield mental health official or officials who evaluated him in person.
"I really love America, and I think that idea that you can be detained and sent somewhere without due process and a lawyer … is crazy," Raub said.
Raub said he served as a Marine in Iraq and Afghanistan from 2005 to 2011, was a combat engineer sergeant and does not own a gun. His mother said he returned from Afghanistan about a year ago and does not have PTSD.
Raub wrote five articles (http://dont-tread-on.me/?p=21770) about economics and the Richmond Liberty Movement (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Richmond-Liberty-Movement/283824318307658) for the website Don't Tread On Me and his Linked-In profile (http://www.linkedin.com/pub/brandon-raub/39/948/401) says he owns a small coin business through the Numis Network (https://www.numisnetwork.com/bjraub).
John W. Whitehead, president of The Rutherford Institute, said the following: “For government officials to not only arrest Brandon Raub for doing nothing more than exercising his First Amendment rights but to actually force him to undergo psychological evaluations and detain him against his will goes against every constitutional principle this country was founded upon. This should be a wake-up call to Americans that the police state is here.”









Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/former-marine-brandon-raub-is-being-held-in-a-psychiatric-ward-over-facebook-posts-about-911-2012-8#ixzz248aVpIGb

[eaglethebeagle]

So go suck my cock.... obama is to blame for this shit this shit never happened ever in the fucking history of our country. Detained for only free speech. obama has bastardized the Constitution in any way he can. He is the problem with America he will lead us into the pits of hell if he is reelected. If you dont know who to vote for in November your a fucking shit eating douche.



"government officials againpointed to Raub’s Facebook posts (https://www.facebook.com/brandon.raub?sk=wall) as the sole reason for their concern and for his continued incarceration."


This is what it means I now understand it. This Marine is in obamacare now. This is obamacare not some fucking health coverage for medical its obamacare for arresting legal law abiding citizens.

[Toki]

Let's keep it civil before I stomp a mud hole in all of your asses.

[eaglethebeagle]

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[Sixx]

Eagle,
Do you agree with Truthers?
Like 9/11 Twin Towers & Pentagon was an inside job?

Brandon J Raub is a truther yeah?



Facebook=Lame
Value your privacy.

Truthers suck
Especially the ones that are prior military.

[Stark]

First there has been to date no release of any other claims that he threatened or conspired to harm anyone... So that is all there is to consider right now. Its called facts and so you consider only facts when any crime or event takes place.

Facts here are that he has just made some Ron Paulish remarks on facebook and he felt he could call out the government and dare them to come get him. So the government came and got him.

If what he did so far is all it takes to get locked away or thrown in the loony toony house then you, me and half of apacheclips members will be getting knocks on our doors in the coming days.

Rubbish, US government loves this webpage, and I have a lot of emails to prove it, just recently we got an email from a representative of the US Airforce (some special school) that want to use videos on the page.

I return I got immunity for all you good people, so don't worry I got your back.

[Toki]

You can't bribe me with ass gifs, sir. But your are doing a damn good job at trying. :)


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[eaglethebeagle]

I am not a truther or a Paulbot. That isnt the point I am making. Just because we dont agree with his views and even if he was the worst douche of a person he shouldnt be detained without cause for just speaking his mind. This time its him being detained for some opinion next time it you or I.

We all have gripes with authority at some time or another. Should you be locked up because you express your gripe? This kid didnt do shit to be locked up and they admited he isnt being arrested just detained. This is what the NDAA and obamas view of what a terrorist is. Janet Napolean has stated as such most of you here are terrorist to her.

That is all i am saying. There has to be sides taken in all things. Are you a terrorist supporter or do you want terrorist killed? Are you for freedom or do you want communism? These are the simple questions and if you dont stand up for one of the other eventually you lose what you want as it is taken from you for being apathetic.

@tokenvi
there is more where that came from if you turn the other way while I cuss and insult certain members....:D

[mrfrosty]

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[eaglethebeagle]

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2012/08/21/vet-in-psych-detention-over-facebook-postings.html?ESRC=topstories.RSS

[Aug 21, 2012

Associated Press| by Larry O'Dell
Former Marine Brandon Raub has been involuntarily detained for psychiatric evaluation in Virginia over Facebook postings in which he talks about a coming revolution and states: "Sharpen my axe; I'm here to sever heads."

RICHMOND, Va. - A former Marine involuntarily detained for psychiatric evaluation for posting strident anti-government messages on Facebook has received an outpouring of support from people who say authorities are trampling on his First Amendment rights.

Brandon J. Raub, 26, has been in custody since FBI, Secret Service agents and police in Virginia's Chesterfield County questioned him Thursday evening about what they said were ominous posts talking about a coming revolution. In one message earlier this month according to authorities, Raub wrote: "Sharpen my axe; I'm here to sever heads."

Police - acting under a state law that allows emergency, temporary psychiatric commitments upon the recommendation of a mental health professional - took Raub to the John Randolph Medical Center in Hopewell. He was not charged with any crime.

A Virginia-based civil liberties group, The Rutherford Institute, dispatched one of its attorneys to the hospital to represent Raub at a hearing Monday. A judge ordered Raub detained for another month, Rutherford executive director John Whitehead said.

"For government officials to not only arrest Brandon Raub for doing nothing more than exercising his First Amendment rights but to actually force him to undergo psychological evaluations and detain him against his will goes against every constitutional principle this country was founded upon," Whitehead said.

Raub's mother, Cathleen Thomas, said by telephone that the government had overstepped its bounds.

"The bottom line is his freedom of speech has been violated," she said.

Thomas said her son, who served tours as a combat engineer in Iraq and Afghanistan, is "concerned about all the wars we've experienced" and believes the U.S. government was complicit in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. One of his Facebook posts, she said, pictured the gaping hole in the Pentagon and asked "where's the plane?"

Whitehead said he found nothing alarming in Raub's social media commentaries. "The posts I read that supposedly were of concern were libertarian-type posts I see all the time," he said.

The big concern, Whitehead said, is whether government officials are monitoring citizens' private Facebook pages and detaining people with whom they disagree.

Dee Rybiski, an FBI spokeswoman in Richmond, said there was no Facebook snooping by her agency.

"We received quite a few complaints about what were perceived as threatening posts," she said. "Given the circumstances with the things that have gone on in the country with some of these mass shootings, it would be horrible for law enforcement not to pay attention to complaints."

Whitehead said some of the posts in question were made on a closed Facebook page that Raub had recently created so he questioned whether anyone from the public would have complained about them.

"Support Brandon Raub" Facebook pages have drawn significant interest, and other Internet sites had numerous comments from people outraged by the veteran's detention.

Raub's supporters characterized the detention as an arrest, complaining he was handcuffed and whisked away in a police cruiser without being served a warrant or read his rights. But authorities say it wasn't an arrest because Raub doesn't face criminal charges.

Col. Thierry Dupuis, the county police chief, said Raub was taken into custody upon the recommendation of mental health crisis intervention workers. He said the action was taken under the state's emergency custody statute, which allows a magistrate to order the civil detention and psychiatric evaluation of a person who is considered potentially dangerous.

He said Raub was handcuffed because he resisted officers' attempts to take him into custody.]



only time will get us all the facts!
but it looks like hes a 9/11 truther...
so why the hell did he join the marines?


He may have changed his views after leaving the military. This shit is fucking bulshit and this is the shit that begins civil unrest. They can come here to my home and suck my Mossberg when I shove it down their throats. Lets see them come detain me.

[eaglethebeagle]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbFQe9Fz9Dg&feature=youtu.be



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[Sixx]

Oathkeepers
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2012/08/20/former-marine-sergeant-victim-of-pre-crime-authoritarianism/

[eaglethebeagle]

Oathkeepers
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2012/08/20/former-marine-sergeant-victim-of-pre-crime-authoritarianism/


There are conspiracy people that think obama is trying to incite civil discord to create riots and chaos so to enact martial law. Enacting martial law then having to enact some response that postpones the election indefinitely. I say if it gets much worse before the actual election then it is possible but the best thing to do is wait to the election and snap his fascist ass off the communist branch. We will see.

[Sixx]

UPDATE



A Hopewell circuit court judge has ordered that a Marine veteran detained over anti-government Facebook posts be released from a psychiatric hospital.

CBS 6 News’ Catie Beck said the Judge Allan Sharrett dismissed the case Thursday against Brandon Raub. The judge said the original petition for Raub’s detention contained no facts. In other words, there was no information on why Raub was being held — and the judge deemed this violated his civil liberties.



http://wtvr.com/2012/08/23/brandon-raub-judge-orders-release-of-detained-marine-veteran-freed/

[eaglethebeagle]

UPDATE



A Hopewell circuit court judge has ordered that a Marine veteran detained over anti-government Facebook posts be released from a psychiatric hospital.

CBS 6 News’ Catie Beck said the Judge Allan Sharrett dismissed the case Thursday against Brandon Raub. The judge said the original petition for Raub’s detention contained no facts. In other words, there was no information on why Raub was being held — and the judge deemed this violated his civil liberties.



http://wtvr.com/2012/08/23/brandon-raub-judge-orders-release-of-detained-marine-veteran-freed/




Just saw this and now let the lawsuit begin.

[mrfrosty]

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