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Cruelbreed
04-29-2009, 06:26 PM
Or both? What's the opinion here, i'm sure we have elements of both without a doubt.

AlvinVu
04-29-2009, 06:53 PM
Republican.

F-450
04-29-2009, 10:33 PM
Or both? What's the opinion here, i'm sure we have elements of both without a doubt.
The pledge of Allegiance...... "I Pledge Allegiance ,to the Flag of The United States of America, and TO THE "REPUBLIC" For which IT STANDS, One Nation Under God, "INDIVISABLE",With Liberty and Justice For All. If you have ever said the pledge, it is clear from the beginning, that America Is a "REPUBLIC society not a Democracy, End of story..............

FOR THE LIBERAL's who are "trying" to Change otherwise, This country has Die hard REPUBLICAN's... There are to many from the old school still teaching good Patriot values to our kids, so what if we let one slip !!!! We're gaining back the ground! To you LIBERALS, I say ..If your grandparents were alive ??? They'd probably slap ypur nasty mouth, wash it out with the old un-fragranced Lye soap and dare you to rinse afterwards.....For those who come to this Nation, "America"... If you Don't like our way,Then find your way back, to that place where you came from... If I visit your country, I respect your laws ....so respect our's !! Don't come here and try to re-culture our way with the antic's of your Government. I am "Full Blooded American" who lives in a REPUBLIC Nation named "AMERICA".

WarGen
04-29-2009, 11:41 PM
In a republic I believe the rulers/representatives are elected by few. In a direct democracy EVERYONE takes part in a decision. If we were a direct democracy we'd be pretty damn ineffective. I say we're both a democracy and a republic because we're something like a representative democracy. The people in large scale elect our representatives. Since the people choose the representatives we're a democracy, but since representatives are "elected" to make the decisions we're a republic. I think it gets pretty complicated and times have changed.

F-450
04-30-2009, 12:07 AM
According to webster:
Republic; A political "SYSTEM " in which "SUPREME POWER" lies in "a body of people" ,who can elect people to represent them. People's views...... not elected official's views!!!

Democracy; A political "ORIENTATION" of those who favor government, by the "Elected People". "Only the view's of those Elected officials", decide what's best for the country!!!

Hope this clears up misguided views........WarGen you have it all mixed up...............

Humbled Infidel
04-30-2009, 12:48 PM
The Federalist Papers
The Republican Form of Government (37-51)

FEDERALIST No. 37 (http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/fed37.htm) Concerning the Difficulties of the Convention in Devising a Proper Form of Government James Madison (http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/madison.htm)

FEDERALIST No. 38 (http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/fed38.htm) The Same Subject Continued, and the Incoherence of the Objections to the New Plan Exposed James Madison (http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/madison.htm)

FEDERALIST No. 39 (http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/fed39.htm) The Conformity of the Plan to Republican Principles James Madison (http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/madison.htm)

FEDERALIST No. 40 (http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/fed40.htm) The Powers of the Convention to Form a Mixed Government Examined and Sustained James Madison (http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/madison.htm)

FEDERALIST No. 41 (http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/fed41.htm) General View of the Powers Conferred by The Constitution James Madison (http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/madison.htm)

FEDERALIST No. 42 (http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/fed42.htm) The Powers Conferred by the Constitution Further Considered James Madison (http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/madison.htm)

FEDERALIST No. 43 (http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/fed43.htm) The Powers Conferred by the Constitution Further Considered (con't) James Madison (http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/madison.htm)

FEDERALIST No. 44 (http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/fed44.htm) Restrictions on the Authority of the Several States James Madison (http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/madison.htm)

FEDERALIST No. 45 (http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/fed45.htm) The Alleged Danger From the Powers of the Union to the State Governments Considered James Madison (http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/madison.htm)

FEDERALIST No. 46 (http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/fed46.htm) The Influence of the State and Federal Governments Compared James Madison (http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/madison.htm)

FEDERALIST No. 47 (http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/fed47.htm) The Particular Structure of the New Government and the Distribution of Power Among Its Different Parts James Madison (http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/madison.htm)

FEDERALIST No. 48 (http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/fed48.htm) These Departments Should Not Be So Far Separated as to Have No Constitutional Control Over Each Other James Madison (http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/madison.htm)

FEDERALIST No. 49 (http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/fed49.htm) Method of Guarding Against the Encroachments of Any One Department of Government by Appealing to the People Through a Convention Alexander Hamilton (http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/hamilton.htm) or James Madison (http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/madison.htm)

FEDERALIST No. 50 (http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/fed50.htm) Periodical Appeals to the People Considered Alexander Hamilton (http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/hamilton.htm) or James Madison (http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/madison.htm)

FEDERALIST No. 51 (http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/fed51.htm) The Structure of the Government Must Furnish the Proper Checks and Balances Between the Different Departments Alexander Hamilton (http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/hamilton.htm) or James Madison (http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/madison.htm)

ghost
04-30-2009, 03:20 PM
In a republic I believe the rulers/representatives are elected by few. In a direct democracy EVERYONE takes part in a decision. If we were a direct democracy we'd be pretty damn ineffective. I say we're both a democracy and a republic because we're something like a representative democracy. The people in large scale elect our representatives. Since the people choose the representatives we're a democracy, but since representatives are "elected" to make the decisions we're a republic. I think it gets pretty complicated and times have changed.


The problem with a public platform to which everyone can speak, is that EVERYONE can speak.

JToKKo
05-05-2009, 04:41 AM
We dont elect the president the electoral gollege does. We do directly elect our representatives for congress though.
why not just read it on Wikipedia?-->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_states theres like 5 different sections on government and elections and all that.

P.S. thank you for posting the Federalist papers :)

CletusHicks
05-15-2009, 10:50 PM
The United States is a Constitutional Republic.



Democracies are rule by the mob, Republics are rule by the law.

bobdina
05-15-2009, 10:55 PM
could not have ssaid it better cletus by the love the name