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cromagnumman
03-23-2011, 10:43 AM
this is totally fucked up bad things are happening

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1369077/Border-agents-catch-13-illegal-immigrants-wearing-marine-uniforms-embroidered-Perez.html#ixzz1HQ3j6qme

Border agents catch 13 illegal immigrants all wearing marine uniforms 'embroidered with the name Perez'


* Two Americans arrested with gang

Border Patrol agents have caught 13 illegal immigrants wearing U.S. Marine uniforms at a checkpoint near San Diego.

The immigrants were in a van that was stopped along Interstate 8 on March 14.

The van had a U.S. government licence plate with an altered number, Border Patrol spokesman Michael Jimenez said.

He did not know where the group obtained the military uniforms. There are reports that each of the 13 uniforms were embroidered with the surname 'Perez'.
Under arrest: The illegal immigrants were all dressed in U.S. marines uniforms

Under arrest: The illegal immigrants were all dressed in U.S. marines uniforms
Fake plates: The registration actually belongs to a van owned by the U.S. government

Fake plates: The registration actually belongs to a van owned by the U.S. government

'This effort is an example of the lengths smugglers will go through to avoid detection, and the skilled and effective police work of the agents and the customs and border protection,' he said.

Two U.S. citizens who were with the immigrants were arrested on suspicion of alien smuggling.

Three of the immigrants were being held in federal custody as witnesses and the others were returned to Mexico, their country of origin, he said.

The Naval Criminal Investigative Service and Border Patrol were conducting a joint investigation of the incident.

NCIS spokesman Ed Buice said he couldn't discuss details, but 'there are several obvious questions that need to be answered.'

It is not known if the two U.S. citizens who were arrested have been in the military.

Officials believe the van entered the U.S. at Calexico. The vehicle is registered in Yucca Valley California.

The fake number plates actually belong to a van registered to the U.S. Marine Corps.
Under arrest: The uniforms were reportedly all embroidered with the name Perez

Under arrest: The uniforms were reportedly all embroidered with the name Perez


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1369077/Border-agents-catch-13-illegal-immigrants-wearing-marine-uniforms-embroidered-Perez.html#ixzz1HQxuTtBa

eaglethebeagle
03-23-2011, 10:55 AM
Ill say it for the millionth time as it has been said that many times easily....close the fucking border... lets put some people to work and begin the construction of the new Great Wall of America.

gutro
03-24-2011, 03:26 PM
I'm not even American and I agree totally!!!!! Fuck the Mexicans

on a side note, I heard that Mexico gave the US the "ok" to use Predators to monitor Cartel movements....

jamieooh
03-25-2011, 08:10 AM
An alert plainclothes U.S. Border Patrol agent who previously served in the Marine Corps foiled a brazen attempt by 13 illegal immigrants and two suspected U.S. smugglers to enter the United States by asking the driver a simple question that every Leatherneck knows: When is the Marine Corps' birthday?

On Nov. 10, 1775, a Corps of Marines was created by a resolution of the Continental Congress, according to the U.S. Marines' website. Formal recognition of the event, however, did not occur until 1921. Prior to that year, it's unclear whether any celebration was held.

But every Marine is taught to remember that historic date -- and the incorrect answer tipped off Border Patrol agents at the Campo Border Patrol Westbound I-8 checkpoint on March 14 near Pine Valley, Calif.

Another agent later noticed that passenger Jose Guadalupe Ceja Jr., a suspected smuggler, seemingly did not understand English. Ceja and the driver of the white van both wore Marine uniforms bearing nametags reading "Lopez."

The use of Marine disguises appears to be one of the first cases of smugglers and immigrants posing as U.S. military. Mexican smugglers often don that country's military uniforms during attempts to get their illegal loads past authorities. In a 2006 incident that strained U.S.-Mexico relations, traffickers dressed as Mexican soldiers crossed the Rio Grande and were seen helping suspected drug smugglers elude U.S. law enforcement during a chase.

Clad in U.S. Marine uniforms, the illegal immigrants were apprehended at the Campo Border Patrol Westbound I-8 checkpoint at 11 p.m. on March 14 near Pine Valley, Calif., according to a March 15 report by California's El Centro Border Intelligence Center.

Clad in U.S. Marine uniforms, the illegal immigrants were apprehended at the Campo Border Patrol Westbound I-8 checkpoint at 11 p.m. on March 14 near Pine Valley, Calif., according to a March 15 report by California's El Centro Border Intelligence Center.

"This effort is an example of the lengths smugglers will go to avoid detection, and the skilled and effective police work and vigilance displayed every day by Customs and Border Protection personnel," U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials said in a statement to FoxNews.com on Tuesday.

Former Marine Capt. David Danelo, a senior fellow at Foreign Policy Research Institute in Philadelphia who has authored a book about the U.S.-Mexico border, says smugglers had the unfortunate luck of running into well-trained Border Patrol agents with military experience.

"Should we punish these guys by sending them through four years of basic training?" he told the Associated Press. "The troubling reality and the real question here is, has this ever succeeded before? That's an answer we just don't know."

Several unanswered questions do remain, including how the suspects acquired the uniforms and their intentions once in the United States.

The Naval Criminal Investigative Service -- the investigative arm of the Navy, which includes the Marine Corps -- has teamed up with the Border Patrol to find out.

"If people are pretending to be Marines for criminal reasons, we'll want to know why," said Ed Buice, spokesman for the Navy's investigative arm, known as NCIS.

Buice declined to discuss details of the investigation.

"I'm sure they were hoping agents would just see military people in a white van with government plates and just wave them through," Border Patrol spokesman Michael Jimenez told the Associated Press.

According to a criminal complaint filed in U.S. District Court in San Diego, the van with a government plate caught the eye of a Border Patrol agent identified only as S. Smith who was driving an unmarked vehicle down the interstate last week.

The van with the words "U.S. Government, For official use only" on the license plate seemed suspicious. One of the numbers also reflected light differently when Smith's headlights shined on it.

Smith then sped up and passed the van to get a better look: The driver was wearing a military uniform and he could see others in the back wearing Marine Corps caps.

Smith called his colleagues at the nearest checkpoint and told them to do a close inspection of the van when it arrived. He followed and asked the driver during the inspection where they were headed.

"Joint Service Base," he replied.

Smith was unmoved, especially after noticing that one of the numbers on the license plate of the van had been altered from a 0 to an 8.

Another agent, identified only by his last name, Robinson, also a former Marine, noticed other anomalies: Some of the group was wearing desert camouflage uniforms and others were wearing urban camouflage uniforms.

Robinson then asked Ceja directly if he was a Marine, and he admitted he was not, according to the complaint.

Agents later tracked down Guadalupe Garcia, another smuggling suspect, who was apparently scouting out agents, at a checkpoint outside Jacumba, Calif., according to the complaint. Marine Corps insignias were found under a passenger seat in his car, authorities said.

Arturo Leyva, another suspect, told authorities he had been asked to smuggle drugs by a man he met at a bar in the border town of Calexico but had backed out, according to the complaint. Authorities say he later ran into the man at a bar across the border in Mexicali and agreed to smuggle immigrants.

He was given a cell phone and called on March 14. He was told a taxi would be taking him from his home in El Centro to Calexico.

The alleged smugglers and immigrants then went to a trailer park, where a man arrived with a military-style duffel bag full of uniforms, the complaint states. The man advised Ceja on how to talk to the Border Patrol, instructing him to say they were coming from Yuma Air Force base.

Marine Capt. Brian Block at the Pentagon said the official attire is the property of service members who buy it when they enter the military and it's up to the individual to keep track of it after they are discharged.

Block said the services strongly encourage military members to maintain control of their uniforms for security reasons, but he acknowledges not everyone heeds the advice.

"You can go into just about any Army-Navy store and pick up old camies if you want to, especially in the San Diego area, where there is a lot of military," he said. "But if you don't have a military ID card, you can't walk onto a base."

Leyva's attorney, Douglas Brown, said his client and the two other U.S. citizens arrested have entered a preliminary plea of not guilty. Ceja's attorney, Martin Molina, declined to comment. Garcia's attorney, Brandon Leblanc, said he could not comment on the case.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/03/24/marine-foils-attempted-smuggling-13-illegal-immigrants-military-uniforms/#ixzz1Hc2KS4fa

eaglethebeagle
03-25-2011, 09:46 AM
yeah our fucking pussy president wont do anything about our border problem. He has the blood of Americans on his hands in my opinion from the Americans that are being killed and murdered by illegals both in America and in the mexican border towns.

jamieooh
03-25-2011, 10:11 PM
eagle if barry was on fire and in front of me i wouldn't piss on him to put him out.
unfortunately we have to many in D.C. past and present that have done nothing.

BrendenF11
03-26-2011, 12:22 AM
There is an article on yahoo, just type in 95 WW2 veteran deported, or google. About a true American, not by birthright but more by serivce and parents.

This really upsets me, simply for the fact that this guy who served thir country as an American for the purposes that America was founded upon, and he is threatened with deportation because of lack of proof. Quite disgusting if you ask me, granted he has the choice "to leave it alone" then again why should he? He has earned his keep, while others haven't, but they want to fly another countries flag over everything inch of american soil they cross.


Great thread!!!!