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Malice
09-09-2010, 03:48 PM
Source: GearScout ("http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/2010/09/03/usaf-to-adopt-multicam/)

Hot off last week’s press: The Air Force is poised to adopt MultiCam, or as the DoD calls it Operation Enduring Freedom Camouflage Pattern. We were out with the JTACs earlier this year up in Afghanistan’s Kunar province, where they were doing everything they could to blend in with not only their surroundings but also their host Army unit. It seemed ridiculous at the time that AF warriors had to worry about getting in trouble for wearing MultiCam, but that’s how it was.

Regardless of what the pattern is, it seems obvious that anything that looks different is going to stand out. The idea of terrain and geographically chosen camo patterns makes far more sense than a service specific camo that speaks more to the service’s commitment to its branding efforts than actual tactical advantage. I’m glad to see the AF coming around on this one.

Air Force Statement regarding Operation Enduring Freedom Camouflage pattern:

8/24/2010 – WASHINGTON — “We are committed to equipping Airmen with the most advanced capabilities available at the earliest time possible,” Air Force officials said Aug. 24. “Based on feedback from Airmen, we believe the Operation Enduring Freedom Camouflage Pattern (OCP) provides advanced protection to servicemembers while operating outside the wire in Afghanistan. Army (officials), while beginning an aggressive fielding schedule, (are) working with Air Force (officials) to support developing a long-term joint fielding strategy later this year.”

Sixx
09-09-2010, 04:25 PM
Source: GearScout ("http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/2010/09/03/usaf-to-adopt-multicam/)

Hot off last week’s press: The Air Force is poised to adopt MultiCam, or as the DoD calls it Operation Enduring Freedom Camouflage Pattern. We were out with the JTACs earlier this year up in Afghanistan’s Kunar province, where they were doing everything they could to blend in with not only their surroundings but also their host Army unit. It seemed ridiculous at the time that AF warriors had to worry about getting in trouble for wearing MultiCam, but that’s how it was.

Regardless of what the pattern is, it seems obvious that anything that looks different is going to stand out. The idea of terrain and geographically chosen camo patterns makes far more sense than a service specific camo that speaks more to the service’s commitment to its branding efforts than actual tactical advantage. I’m glad to see the AF coming around on this one.

Air Force Statement regarding Operation Enduring Freedom Camouflage pattern:

8/24/2010 – WASHINGTON — “We are committed to equipping Airmen with the most advanced capabilities available at the earliest time possible,” Air Force officials said Aug. 24. “Based on feedback from Airmen, we believe the Operation Enduring Freedom Camouflage Pattern (OCP) provides advanced protection to servicemembers while operating outside the wire in Afghanistan. Army (officials), while beginning an aggressive fielding schedule, (are) working with Air Force (officials) to support developing a long-term joint fielding strategy later this year.”

Yeah keep changing the Unifroms again...GayForce leaders.

It's all about the EPR/OPR bullets. Those desk fags wouldn't know utility even if it slapped them in the face.

Malice
09-09-2010, 04:49 PM
Thankfully they decided on something other than the random uniform patterns they have now. I much prefer the multi-cam to anything else out there.

Sixx
09-09-2010, 10:38 PM
Oh I agree. The blue smurf tiger stripe uniform they were pushing before the ABU was lame looking, The ABU was slightly better.
The proposed Blues replacement was lame....I'm glad that fell through.

All this crap is because some back office puke wants to get an awesome impact bullet statements for their evaluations and then move on. Same thing with the USAF fitness evaluations....that shit changes what? every two years? No wonder we cant keep people within standards.

Devious187
09-09-2010, 10:44 PM
i think its best that we all wear one

MickDonalds
09-10-2010, 12:58 AM
i think its best that we all wear one

I don't. Each component should have their own uniform.

The USAF has maybe 1% of their deployed forces leaving the wire (not counting air crews, who wear brown flight suits anyhow). This is redundant, and once again, is just another example of the Air Force trying to prove their worth, when in reality, the Army can pretty much do all the ground jobs that the USAF does in a deployed environment. It's as if they have to try and convince everybody that they're really supposed to be there.

I don't get it.

Sixx
09-10-2010, 02:08 AM
I don't. Each component should have their own uniform.

The USAF has maybe 1% of their deployed forces leaving the wire (not counting air crews, who wear brown flight suits anyhow). This is redundant, and once again, is just another example of the Air Force trying to prove their worth, when in reality, the Army can pretty much do all the ground jobs that the USAF does in a deployed environment. It's as if they have to try and convince everybody that they're really supposed to be there.

I don't get it.


I agree. Most of the USAF personnel that goes outside of the wire is limited.... Fat Ass Chief Master Sergeants going out for hearts and minds missions don't count.

You have a limited number of Security Forces leaving the confines of the base to patrol, You have some doing convoy escorts...you have a small number of EOD leaving on a regular basis.
Then you have TACP, Combat Weather, PJ's and a few others. Half the time they wear flight suits, coveralls, or ACU's if they are assigned to an Army unit.

There is no valid reason to change Uniforms every two years.


The thing is Mick.....As I do agree with your statement about the USAF trying to prove our worthiness, However part of it has to do with the Pentagon forcing our roles to change because of the other branches complaining about us sitting in Air Conditioned shacks playing grab ass.

Security Forces roles and training has changed because of it and all of us deploy now. There were a few units that were "hands off" for deployments such as Nuclear Security Forces units, but not anymore.
Which is good, however I feel that we do not have that much of an impact and manpower to do what the Army does outside the wire.

Out of a total of two years deployed, I went outside the base maybe 18-20 times

MickDonalds
09-10-2010, 04:06 AM
I mean shit, with all these uniform changes, we're going to look like the Iraqi Army! Rarely do I see a group of 5 or more Iraqi soldiers in the same pattern of camo. If everybody just copied what the Marines do, we wouldn't have these problems.

1 Stateside uniform
1 Deployment uniform.

1 Single, pattern sharing color for equipment: Rucksacks, body armor, tactical gear+ accessories. The Marines use Coyote Tan for both environments. The Army and USAF could use Sage Green or Foliage Gray.

Is it that fuckin' hard to figure out? Shit, I swear, I could go to Project Executive Office in Natick, Massachusetts (where the DOD decides on uniforms and related issues) with a Powerpoint presentation of 3 slides, and say "Here! Do this, you dumbfucks! Stop listening to generals and civilians that dont leave DC!"